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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The question is inherently stupid,[b] given that the majority of women have always had to work to help their families survive. [/b] This conversation is for a few privileged women to kvetch over. The rest of us know that this world will never be good for women and girls until we crush the patriarchy and stand on truly equal footing with men in all areas of life.[/quote] This is often repeated on here. That only white women in the 1950s stayed home. But I find it hard to believe that all of these women were working full time out of the house jobs. Why? [b]Daycare wasn’t a thing[/b]. Didn’t exist. Who was watching the kids of all these moms who were working?[/quote] Yes, grandma. She worked all her life as a maid, then took care of the kids while my mother worked a job with a salary.[/quote] So grandma didn’t need to be employed or retired early to watch the kids? I’m still suspicious about all these working women without any form of childcare. Doesn’t really make any sense. My guess is most of these working women were working part time or shift work. But certainly not out of the house from 8-6 PM every day five days a week. These women would need to be home to prepare dinner, clean the house etc. [/quote] I’m with you. I’ve read a lot of Jane Austen, Little House on the Prairie, Little Women, etc. None of these depict married women with children working outside the home and living in extended family homes. [/quote] Little House on the Prairie has plenty of married women working outside the home. The various dressmakers Laura works for, as well as women at the hotels. In real life, Laura’s family owned and kept a hotel in one of the gaps the books don’t cover. And the entire series shows how agricultural families were constantly working: Almanzo in farmer boy is “doing a man’s work on the farm since age 10” after all. As many people have pointed out, married women with babies might keep the babies with them while they worked (as farm hands, laundresses, etc) but from toddlerhood on up, kids were expected to be working too not in childcare. The necessity of childcare follows on from the advent of child labor laws which I for one consider an excellent thing.[/quote] I was such a huge fan of the Laura Ingalls Wilder books as a child, they were among my most favorite and as an adult I bought a lovely collectors set with color illustrations that still sits on my bookshelf. Next to those sweet little books sits the much more recently published Pioneer Girl, an annotated history of the true story of Laura Ingalls Wilder’s life, published by the South Dakota Historical Society. I highly recommend it to any fans of the children’s books. Suffice to say that Pa Ingalls was a dreamer and a wastrel and life was very hard and very ugly in many respects. Almanzo did not provide well for Laura owing to bad luck and bad health and they never had a comfortable life until Laura began publishing her children’s books in her middle 60s, Almanzo’s middle 70s. Women worked very, very hard to help their families survive - far beyond keeping house and playing with their children, ‘watching them grow.’ [/quote] I would love to buy this Pioneer Girl book, bit there are numerous books with this title (about same topic) on Amazon, which one are you referring to?[/quote] Pretty sure PP was referring to this one: https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Girl-Laura-Ingalls-Wilder/dp/0984504176/ref=asc_df_0984504176&mcid=7addebe22eb7342e942d85584e9bbaf3?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80264466333875&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=m&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583863993019658&psc=1 It’s a very interesting read. And related to OP’s question, I’m pretty sure Rose Wilder was pro mothers having the option of working outside the home.[/quote]
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