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As clearly stated in DC’s pedestrian traffic regulations, “Pedestrians may cross the roadway within a marked or unmarked crosswalk. However, no pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb, safety platform, safety zone, loading platform or other designated place of safety and walk or turn into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is impossible for the driver to yield.”

So if Allie did indeed dart out in front of the car, then yes, there is more we need to know. It’s just not as simple as you want it to be. [/quote]

There is more you want to know, if you're trying to figure out whether you can blame a five-year-old for being killed by an adult licensed driver in a crosswalk at an intersection in her neighborhood.

If you're trying to figure out how to prevent this from happening, then no, there is not more "we" "need" to know. "Parents should hold on to their children at all times" and "Parents should not allow five-year-olds to ride bikes" are not effective prevention strategies, they're expressions of your opinions.[/quote]

A child darting out in front of a car that cannot safely stop in time is 100% relevant. It’s not an opinion - it’s fact. [/quote]

It couldn’t safely stop in time because it blew through the stop sign and was going too fast through the intersection. [/quote]

Do we know that that’s what happened?[/quote]

If the vehicle had come to a full stop and then proceeded safely through the intersection, it would not have killed her. [/quote]
Seriously stop with this. If she was at the opposite side of the intersection where he stopped, and was hidden by parked cars and then darted out in front of him then yes, it is entirely possible he wouldn’t have had adequate time to stop. 
If you need to be deliberately obtuse to get your point across, it’s not a very strong point. [/quote]

NP- If he didn't have a clear view of the intersection and the crosswalk before driving through it then he wasn't driving through it safely.  It is clear to me that the PP you are arguing with is saying that the fact that he killed her in a crosswalk means he was not driving safely.  [/quote]
Citation?[/quote]

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