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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Surely there must be more pressing modern days issues for Native Americans to focus on than the history of Thanksgiving. [/quote]

Having the US acknowledge their loss is certainly a small step forward. There is certainly much more needed. [/quote]\

The people who "lost" are dead.  This is what we spend directly on their descendants...

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/20-billion-total-us-support-for-american-indians

https://www.indian.senate.gov/news/press-release/senate-passes-largest-investment-native-programs-history-more-31-billion-heading

plus, of course, normal benefits for low income people... Much more is not needed.  
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Maybe it’s not enough to fix what we broke.

Maybe just throwing money at the problem won’t help.
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What "problem" are you trying to solve?

None of the people alive today live like their nomadic ancestors.  NONE of us.  The world has moved on, and the descendants of "Native" Americans would be better off joining American society by leaving the reservation system and moving on.  We don't owe anyone anything.  Their ancestors lost, just like lots of other ancestors. [/quote]

The US government has broken treaties and stolen lands. Their bad actions did not end hundreds of years ago.

Native Americans should decide what is best for them. 
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Look, I'm sorry the natives lost to a technologically superior force.  History is what it is.  There's no going back. Maybe Italy should get back all of its land it lost in Africa and all over Europe because the Romans lost?  I guess all of the countries throughout Central and South America shouldn't exist? Maybe China should get back all of their land the Russians took from them?   I guess Canada, New Zealand, and Australia shouldn't exist?   Should Israel and Pakistan exist?  Maybe Mongolia should be forced to have a month of mourning for how many they killed under Ghengis Kahn?

History is brutal. People get conquered and lose lands.  It's the way the world has worked since the beginning of time. [/quote]

Natives didn’t lose to a technologically superior force. The remaining 500 tribes in the US negotiated treaties in good faith with the government that are not being honored by the current (democratically elected) US government. For example, the Cherokee treaty says they get a representative in Congress and there was a hearing just last week and the House was like “we’ll see.” This was already agreed to! This is an active treaty violation. This is not a “technological superiority” issue, this is Congress not honoring a treaty ratified by the Senate and signed by the President. [/quote]

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