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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Faculty members get tenure at prestigious R1 research universities primarily because of their research and publications. Many of them do not focus a lot of time and effort into teaching undergrads and some avoid it completely if they can. You may get well-known professors but that doesn't equate to "better" in terms of teaching and classroom experience (particularly for undergrads). [/quote]

So why does everyone want to get into an ivy when it isn’t about the teaching?[/quote]

Dartmouth, Brown, and Princeton probably have very good teaching.  But USNWR rankings and research reputations have little to do with actual quality of education.[/quote]

There's a ranking for that, too!

Best Undergraduate Teaching, National Universities

1. Elon
2. Brown
3. Princeton (tie)
3. Rice (tie)
5. Boston College (tie)
5. Dartmouth (tie)
7. Georgia State (tie)
7. William & Mary (tie)
9. University of Maryland, Baltimore County (tie)
9. Notre Dame (tie)

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/undergraduate-teaching

Best Undergraduate Teaching, Liberal Arts Colleges

1. Carleton
2. Amherst
3. Agnes Scott (tie)
3. Bowdoin (tie)
3. Davidson (tie)
6. Grinnell (tie)
6. Swarthmore (tie)
8. Bates
9. Colorado College (tie)
9. Pomona

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/undergraduate-teaching

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Yes, but these are for some reason separate from the main USNWR rankings, which are about overall resources and budgets, not about what it is actually focused on (e.g. teaching).[/quote]

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