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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If there was really a teacher shortage, [b]teachers should trade tenure protections for higher pay[/b]. No district is going to needlessly fire a good teacher if there's a shortage, and Republicans would probably get behind it, particularly if it included a pay-for-performance element.[/quote]

That has not worked well for teachers in private schools or charters. A friend taught at a charter in another city. She was warned that the board liked to cycle out even good teachers every three years so no one cost too much. [/quote]

Most of the school systems with pay for performance don't offer good salaries to begin with.     It is typically something that anti-teacher and anti-union areas try to suggest, but it is really just a tactic to lower overall teacher salaries or remove more expensive teachers.[/quote]

Perhaps, although that wouldn't be my goal. I'd absolutely support an overall increase in sending on teacher salaries. It should just be done sensibly. But part of that does mean that it makes no sense to pay a 60 year old teacher twice as much as a 26 year old teacher for the same job. I'd be perfectly happy paying everyone the current rates for highly experienced teachers, if that's what it would take to attract good teachers.

And to be clear, I do think there's some value in experience and retention. But that value is probably closer to 20% than 100%. And it also makes sense to pay entry-level teachers less because you don't know much about their quality yet. But that effect should be largely gone by year 5.[/quote]

This x 1000! As a teacher new to MCPS but with a variety of experience in different educational settings not recognized enough by MCPS to have a significant impact on my step level, I have found myself frustrated over the extreme salary disparity. Using myself and several co-workers as an example (we are dedicated, enthusiastic, always spending $ on school supplies, working weekends to individualize instruction, constantly taking pd out of pocket, heavily invested in the Science of Reading, etc.), and thinking about other co-workers making 108k or 125k who are not even doing half of what we are doing is insane. I agree that there should be some compensation for experience, but not double or triple the amount a starting teacher makes. This is especially apparent when contrasted to the private sector (as another PP pointed out) where increased salary = more responsibilities. Not true in the world on education![/quote]

I am almost at 20 years of teaching and I spent the first 10 working insane hours prepping lessons, content, new preps, etc.  I probably worked close to 60 hours a week.  But since then I’ve become much more efficient at planning, have lots of quality materials I painstakingly created that I now can just modify and have set more boundaries on extras like sponsoring clubs or joining committees.  I’m still very much a member of my school community but I want to enjoy my free time outside of work with my kids.  And as far as salary goes I am comfortable but am pretty sure I make no where near double any of my colleagues.[/quote]

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