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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here’s evidence it changed in 2011:

https://www.mynvsl.com/leaders?post=2&fname=Jeff&lname=Gerber&sid=18660&stid=2

Otherwise how could he be 9 two years in a row?

Here’s evidence the cut off wasn’t June 1 going back to at least 2003:

https://www.mynvsl.com/leaders?post=2&fname=&lname=Hashemi&sid=6497&stid=1

Otherwise why would his age change in the middle of July?

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I’m not the original poster here. Jumped in late. Was just trying to help the person (maybe you?) who thought there was no evidence of cutoff other than June 1st. Relax a little. [/quote]

That was me. But I wasn’t the one who called you crazy. Thanks for finding the evidence. I’m still curious when they switched to that system as it seems like a bad idea (which is probably why they seem to be the only major swim league not have done it ). They definitely had the June 1 system when the league was founded [/quote]

It's not evidence. Likely data error. Your last record doesn't prove what you think it proves.

According to the data that kids birthday is between 7/12 and 7/19 in 2003. Then in 2004 it's between 7/10 and 7/17 (meaning it must be 7/13, 7/14, 7/15, 7/16, or 7/17). But wait, in 2005 his birthday is between 6/25 and 7/2. That doesn't make sense. Then in 2008 he's 14 the whole year (except the meet his is marked as 13). Keep in mind you said the rule changed in 2011 so how could a kid be 14 the whole year in 2008 if his age changed in other years?

Oh, wait a little digging on the NVSL website and we see that they started using electronic scoring in 2008.

"The NVSL started using electronic software for meets with the 2008 season. So for 2008 and later we populate the website with electronic files that not only provide the basis for the meet results display but also a database of swimmer times that can be searched using the Leaders function."

Everything before that was by hand. You can find a nice document on historic times here: https://www.mynvsl.com/documents?folder_id=29405

I think we can chalk up your "evidence" to data error.[/quote]

Here's a link to a 2011 parent handbook for an NVSL team referencing adding up in the middle of the season: http://ast22003.org/redtide/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/parents_handbook_2011.pdf
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First, very cool document.  And it was interesting that they say when you age up in the middle of the season - you have a clean slate for B meets.

So, yes, there used to be age up in NVSL.  No huge conspiracy people.[/quote]

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