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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.[/quote] False. [/quote] NP. In what way is that false?[/quote] It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and [b]living in bustling regions[/b], who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college [b]in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college. [/b] https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html[/quote] Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.[/quote] Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know. [/quote] yeah someone did- Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. [b]Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.[/b][/quote] Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”[/quote] For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal. I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students. [/quote] Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks. [/quote] If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that. Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ. [/quote] No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings[/quote] Atlanta... Nashville... Dallas... Houston... Austin... New Orleans... Miami... Tampa... Charlotte... the fastest growing cities in the nation.[/quote]
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