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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP,  thanks for not blaming the URM boogeyman like most of the grievance-,filled DCUM posters do when their DC doesn't get admitted to his/ her college of choice.[/quote]

God damn it. Some of you act like admissions standards aren't quantifiably lower for URMs and first gens. The data is readily available: they are. And each of those acceptances means one fewer acceptance for students -- many of them sons and daughters of people who post here -- not in favored demographic groups but with much higher stats. It's bull crap. And just to preempt the response I'm sure is coming, yes, legacies have gotten the same favorable treatment for many years. That's bull crap too.[/quote]

A poor brown kid did not steal your kid’s spot. Try harder next time.[/quote]

Exactly. The entitlement burns. [/quote]

Look, I have no dog in this fight. But neither of the 2 immediate PPs are contributing anything constructive to the discussion raised. It's not "entitlement" to think that you work hard and excel = you get into a top school. That is how it has been -and some think it should be- forever. Why should those kids go to "lesser" schools when they've worked hard to get the top grades?

Answer the PPs question -and I'd like to know the answer- are the admit standards lower or not for certain demographics and groups?[/quote]

Admission standards aren't lower for certain groups. They just aren't.

In some cases, test scores may be lower, but test scores aren't great predictors of performance, even if you assume that the tests are perfectly nonbiased. That's why many schools are making test scores optional or not using them at all. Test scores have been shown to underpredict performance for some groups.  Groups that have less access to test prep are going to underperfom on the test. Groups that have less access to advanced classes that teach to the test are going to underperfom on those tests.  Groups that are constantly told that they "don't do well on standardized tests" tend to underperform on those tests.

There are more qualified kids than slots at the top schools. Even if you only accepted white kids, there would still be 10 qualified white kids for every spot. URM and immigrants are not keeping your kids out of the  top 20 schools. It's just math.

A hard working, bright kid will do just fine if they attend a "lesser" school. The anxiety about admission to a top 20 school is just baseless anxiety. [/quote]

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