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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A college with ED doesn't belong to the top tier. It demonstrates lack of confidence competing with HYPSM. So Columbia isn't HYPSM caliber. Neither is Penn or Chicago.[/quote]

Can’t we stipulate that HYPSM are the top tier?
It is reality that Columbia, Chicago and Northwestern are not currently in the same tier as HYPSM.[/quote]

I think there's ~15 "elite" schools in the US, of which "top tier" constitutes HYPSM.  The other 10 elite schools are (no particular order):

Brown
Columbia
Cornell
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Dartmouth
JHU
Caltech
Penn
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This is for undergrad only obviously[/quote]

People on here need to look up the definition of university. I thought there were decent number of educated folks l
around here. University includes all students both undergraduate and graduate, faculty and academic research. [/quote]

+1. I am disappointed in how all these posters keep talking about the undergraduate college as if it's the only component within a university. Clearly they do not know what a university is.

If this thread was named "what are the top 10 most desirable undergraduate colleges in the USA?," then those posters' argument would stand true.

The fact of the matter is that HYPSM has no legitimacy nor significance outside the undergraduate colleges. You can't assume that HYPSM are the best 5 universities just because they have the most desirable undergraduate programs.

Princeton as a university is weaker than Columbia. While Princeton's STEM is better than Columbia's, they are pretty much equal in the humanities and social sciences. But Princeton loses because they do not have top business, law, and medical schools like Columbia.

I don't understand why to some posters, the only important component of a university is their undergrad. If anything, grad school is more important and significant. [/quote]

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