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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Williamsburg is a terrible town for a college student. It is first and foremost: 1. For tourists 2. For wealthy retirees from the north 3. For suburbanite commuters who work in Richmond/Hampton Roads [b]The walkable area directly adjacent to campus has a lot of restaurants that are extremely high in price to the point that no college student can afford to even enter and is only frequented by the wealthy retirees. The shops in that area are tourist merchandise, again extremely expensive goods.[/b] Other areas of the town are simply a suburban hellscape similar to NOVA, where it is impossible to travel without a car. It is indeed sad because the campus-adjacent walkable area is actually nice and could mirror the walkable areas of Charlottesville where many UVA students frequent, but the extremely high prices and catering to old retirees almost intentionally excludes college students. The old retirees have complete control of the town government and seem to hate the college students; it seems like they just want to live near a historical college more than anything. The rest of the areas are inaccessible to students without a car and is more than anything just a suburban hellscape for middle-aged families with children. Cue the current reputation of the college as an unattractive place to spend 4-years. And it certainly is unattractive. College towns like Athens, Berkeley, Ann Arbor, Charlottesville, Chapel Hill, even Cambridge, grew around colleges and cater to the college population and faculty. Williamsburg simply does not. Many younger faculty live in Richmond and commute to Williamsburg simply because the town is terribly deficient for non-retired individuals. The college students would probably do the same if they could. [/quote] You seem to be omitting or forgetting a lot of things. There are four bar/restaurant/delis right across from the football stadium that entirely cater to students. If you go into Merchants Square directly across the corner from the Wren Building, there are some expensive restaurants and shops, but also ones like Cheese Shop (great sandwiches), Brickhouse Tavern, the bookstore, Aromas, Precarious Beer Project, etc. You can take a 5 minute bus or bike to New Town Williamsburg, which has a lot of shops, a big movie theater complex, etc. [/quote] Yes, 4 establishments total (including all delis, bars, and restaurants) in the entire town catering to students. You're making my point that the town does not cater to the students. Cheese Shop is rather expensive and is meant for tourists, not students. Bookstore is the university's official bookstore, every college has one. [/quote] I count at least six college friendly bar/restaurants within walking distance. Your hatred of the place is really weird.[/quote] I doubt that there is 6, but the fact that you think 6 restaurants in a college town is impressive rather shows how pathetic of a college town Williamsburg is. It's not hatred, it's criticism. The town caters around tourists and wealthy retirees, not students.[/quote] There are dozens and dozens of bars and restaurants in Williamsburg. I can think of at least six that are within walking distance. That's obviously not impressive compared to, say, Madison, WI or Ann Arbor, MI, or the like. Your stereotype is outdated. Town and gown relations have improved a lot. It's not your cup of tea, clearly. We get that. But your vehemence is, again, weird.[/quote]
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