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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Face it, republicans, this is not a winning issue for you.[/quote]

+1. From a political standpoint, I am not sure how this is a 'winning" issue. Over 65% of American favor the pro-choice side and even if you are pro-life, there is almost unanimity aroun rape and incest. Even folks who might be on the fence can see what kind of power grab this is from the right. Add to it the tariffs and foreign policy fiascos and it just become untenable to see how Trump can win/keep the Senate without Russian intervention.

I suppose that is what they are counting on, which is why we need to get away from electronic voting immediately.[/quote]

Even Pat Robertson thinks it’s too extreme.

“Longtime televangelist Pat Robertson decried Alabama’s new abortion ban as “extreme,” saying on his show on Wednesday that the state legislature has “gone too far.””
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2019/05/15/televangelist-pat-robertson-alabamas-abortion-ban-is-extreme-has-gone-too-far/

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This is huge, actually.  If you aren’t a kid of the 80s or older, may I introduce someone instrumental in forming the religious right.   And he has decent political sense (although I really dislike him).

Practically, this is a loser for Republicans. It is so facially unconstitutional, and affects birth control like IUDs, that it will be stayed and never heard from again. But, it changed the conversion.

Fact is 70% of Americans support RvW and 80% of Americans believe there should be abortion in some cases besides saving the mother— like rape and incest. Ralph Northam (who has been a huge distraction as VA’s governor and needs to not run again, says the VA resident) and NY managed to make the Dem position on abortion about the extremes.   Many democrats, including myself, are not there for third trimester abortions unless the mothers health or life is at risk or the baby has serious disabilities.  And arguing otherwise I’d out of step with where most of America is.

Before the GA and AL bans, the discussion was Democrats would let you abort a healthy baby who just be born instead and live outside the womb. It’s not a popular position.  Alabama and Georgia changed the conservations to— Republicans would make tweens carry a rapists baby. Also, very distasteful.

Alabama and Georia’s mistake was changing the conversation. Because now the outrage cycle has moved from what monsters Dems are to what monsters Rs are.  And they are tilting at windmills.  John Roberts deeply cares about the legitimacy of the Court. Enough to save the ACA. For now, they are going to erode incrementally and pile on restrictions and make it functionally, but not legally, impossible to get an abortion in these states.   Plus, suburban white women swung the House flip in 2018. Not letting their tweens who have been raped get an abortion?  Only in the state where the Republicans political instincts gave us Roy Moore.

Because we are 6 seconds away from some viral Twitter meme about how Roy Moore has finally found a way to make young girls have his babies.

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