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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My kids are at one of the so-called Big 3s here in DC. Two of my children have ADHD. Neither one of them gets accommodations because they need to learn how to handle it. They instead have an executive functioning coach. They are both in upper school now, and their grades are fine. Not stellar, but fine. One got into her first choice for college (not an Ivy or super-selective school).

My kids have told me that they think about 50% of the students get extra time. They say they don’t want it.[b] But I am now wondering if I have somehow done them a disservice by not getting them accommodations[/b]. It’s a strange world.[/quote]

The key here is that the world exists beyond college. So I would argue by not mowing down obstacles you have actually created a kids who will have learned to keep going even if they're not winning, to work harder than the next guy and advocate for what they want. My guess is at their 20th reunion, they will be far more successful than all those kids with accommodations who never learned to maneuver around and through problems.[/quote]

Your generalizations and ignorance about disabilities is getting in your way. This maneuvering around a disability is a myth. Most kids with disabilities who are not helped, accommodated etc hate school by early elementary. To any parents with kids who are struggling at school, always keep your focus on never allowing any teacher, school, other students to make your kid hate school. Kids with disabilities with no support often stop trying and decide they are stupid. It's a waste of a valuable person to society to allow this. Kids with disabilities can't usually just gut it out. They often end up unemployed or in jail. This is why IDEA exists. The accommodations are a way of leveling the playing field so they can benefit from education like neurotypical kids. [/quote]

I would like for the person who suggests that kids with disabilities should just "mow down obstacles" to volunteer his/her kids for [b]"last place"[/b] in every race, every test, every measure of ability, for their entire educational career--do it without support or appropriate accommodation, knowing that dyslexia, ADHD, language disorders, dyscalculia, not intelligence, is what is holding them back.  Tell them that failure has made them stronger and better. [/quote]

Last place? You act so enlightened, but you still view learning as a competition?

Honestly, this is the problem right here, folks. This pp doesn’t care about her dc learning. Only about what place dc gets. It’s no wonder you want extra time so badly. [/quote]

I'm not the poster your are criticizing but you are ignoring the point they are making. She's suggesting that parents with neurotypical kids often do not understand that the disabilities can't be overcome with just working harder. It is possible for these kids to be some of the brightest in the school or just college capable like other kids but a school career of failures will turn them off of school. Not having the supports often creates a pipeline to drug abuse and prison. [/quote]

pp here "last place" is a poor word choice - my point is that being the last to do even basic things like read, or understand math, and to have terrible test scores no matter how hard you try, will make kids feel stupid, not strong. We don't need to compare kids to one another-- they do it on their own. School failure demoralizes them-- it doesn't make them stronger. What makes them stronger is support, encouragement, some "wins" and learning to advocate for themselves and their needs. 
The outcomes for kids with unsupported and/or untreated learning issues goes way beyond whether they get into the college of their choice. [/quote]

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