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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And with all this development Loudoun has the worst record in ECNL among Virginia clubs.  At some point development must translate into wins.  If it does not, development mantra is an excuse for incompetence.  Loudoun' performance in ECNL shows that the only thing the club developed is the culture of losing.[/quote]

"Culture" of losing cannot be defined by one or even two years.   That implies a seriously long period of time which has not happened yet.  As has been said by others, many of Loudoun's top players after U12 have left for other ECNL clubs in the past.  Now that they have ECNL, they only real threat is some leaving for DA.  On the development point, it's defined by individual players and teams getting BETTER, not necessarily winning.  If skillsets and athleticism on a given team is relatively low compared to others in the same league, a team can develop and  never win, but they may make 0-8 results into 0-1 or 2 results by the end of the year.  That wouldn't meet your definition of development because the team wouldn't have won a game, but it is.   To gauge that kind of effect over time takes several years, not one or two.[/quote]

One year of losing is not a big deal, but if every single age group in ECNL has a losing record, it encompasses more than one year of development and retentioin issues.  The only semi-legitimate excuse that was given is that Loudoun's top players used to leave for DA and ENCL teams from other clubs, because Loudoun played in CCL so it was harder to retain top players and the hope is that Loudoun will improve its retention rate by marketing ECNL status.  i  [/quote]

Will you get off the what the older teams are doing, it doesn't matter. The 06 Loudoun ECNL team beat FCV 06 DA team even after FCV picked over the Loudoun roster. Not every strong player in Loudoun left for FCV ECNL either. Many went to McLean over the years. So Loudoun kids have been represented on FCV and McLean ECNL rosters for years. With ECNL being an option for Loudoun going forward Loudoun Red will no longer be losing 10 kids a year to FCV and McLean like they did in the past.

If you can't understand due to talent drain to ECNL clubs over the past 4-6 years has had an effect on those Loudoun team then you are purposely being stubborn or you are not very smart or both. Successful current ECNL and DA rosters are littered with former Loudoun players. Going forward, most of those players will simply stay at Loudoun because unlike years before, Loudoun has a true showcase platform league. Frankly, for 05 and above the Loudoun ECNL teams are basically Loudoun black and when looked at that way Loudoun is doing very well fielding essentially B teams.

And, just as a final reminder, Loudoun's 06 ECNL team beat FCV's DA team in WAGs. [/quote]

In the same tournament Loudoun 06 ECNL lost to two other DA teams which FCV has previously beat. (Loudoun was lucky to be in the semfinal to face undefeated FCV despite their second place finish in their bracket, they were not so lucky in the final against another almost as good DA team). Their 4 and 4 record in ECNL places 06 Loudoun ECNL currently in 5th out of 11 in their ECNL division (the highest of any Loudoun ECNL team).

Standings are not kept for U13 DA but if they were I believe FCVs 5 wins and 1 tie would have them solidly in first in their division.

Loudoun 06 ECNL is alright, FCV 06 DA is better.[/quote]

Yep - it's both. You are both stubborn and not very smart.
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