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You really need to calm down.  I wouldn't pretend to know anyone's immigration status and wouldn't assume from the language they speak.  What you missed from my post above is that the people my FIL and BIL work with openly SAY that they are illegal immigrants.

BIL and FIL have been roofers for years and years; through many economic down-turns, and know the difference between that and the erosion of their pay and benefits from the wave of illegal immigrants who've taken many roofing jobs.  Also, they don't work exclusively on homes, and many of the homes they do work on, are in very high income areas (FIL was a slate roofer), so the housing crisit wasn't so much an issue.

I'm not sure why it's so necessary for you to try to say that there's got to be some other explanation for their experience.  Certainly, there may be other forces at work, but illegal immigration has played a part in eroding the pay, benefits, and ability to compete in the roofing industry.

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NP.. those illegal immigrants are doing what businesses in the US allow them to do.. work.  Don't blame them for taking advantage of what those businesses are offering. Lay your blame on where it belongs - businesses (many R owned) who hire them.  If these businesses stopped hiring them, guess what would happen? They'd stop coming. No jobs, no reason to come.

But those businesses love their cheap labor. For example, in FL, they just voted down a measure to implement e-verify. Guess who lobbied against it?  Construction and Ag. lobbies and FL chamber of commerce - -most who are Rs.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/254027-e-verify-proposal-opposed-ag-construction-groups-heads-full-crc[/quote]

You'll need to stop with your assumptions.  I didn't blame them, I blamed illegal immigration, which has many facets.  PP asked how illegal immigration personally affected me or my family, which I answered.  I fully support working from the illegal immigration problem from all the angles, including from the business side.  My idea is a fine of treble the yearly market wages and applicable taxes (SS, unemployment, etc.) for each illegal immigrant worker a company hires.  The company my FIL worked for took SS #s from its workers and made no effort to know if the SS #s actually belonged to the workers.  If one SS# didn't "work" some reason, they'd just give a different one.  [/quote]

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