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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like why do you all care so much? What affect will it have on your daily life? Is it the thought that somewhere in America a family without the proper paperwork and time in bureaucratic limbo might be having a happier and higher quality of life? Does that keep you awake at night? That someone might be getting something for free? Why doesn’t it bother you that rich Americans get unearned benefits at your expense? Your economic unease is due to money grubbing top .01% of Americans, not Hispanics fleeing countries torn apart by America’s insatiable appetite for illegal narcotics.[/quote] Why? Because the GOP propaganda machine pumps out misinformation about unauthorized immigrants 24x7 - misinformation that fuels the fear and anger of their gullible conservative base. Conveniently distracting them from their rape of the middle & working classes. [/quote] [u]Wow. Just wow. I guess the statistic of 11 million illegal aliens in this country is a “made-up GOP statistic?” I guess the murder of Kate Steinle, Ronald deSilva, Drew Rosenberg, and countless others is just “misinformation?” I guess the numerous images of illegal aliens scaling our walls are simply “propaganda?" Why do we care so much? [b]For one, we have laws. [/b] Laws that are being ignored by the illegal aliens entering this country. Laws being ignored by the Democrats welcoming them in. And, laws being ignored by the Democratic politicians giving them sanctuary. I care because our fiscal resources are limited. Every illegal alien who enters our country diverts resources from citizens who live here - in schools, in hospitals, and yes, in federal funding (these illegal alien children are eligible for free lunches AND a free education - almost always at a cost higher than that of citizens). I care because some of these entering illegally are coming to do harm to our citizens. Some are gang members who have actually murdered and raped others. Some are drug runners who flood our country with illegal drugs. So, yeah, I care. Illegal immigration lowers the quality of life for many here. The question is why do you NOT care? Why do you NOT care about our laws and the well-being and safety of our citizens? What other laws do you believe are “optional?” [/quote][/u] Out of curiosity, were you this concerned about laws the Bundys broke? What about Arpaio? [/quote] Do you always participate in whataboutism? Do you always have difficulty staying on topic?[/quote] No problem staying on topic. Answer the question. You said you care about our laws. So do I. I am wondering if you are as preoccupied with law-breaking of the Bundy's, for example. Or Arpaio. Or is this more about brown people breaking the law. It's pertinent to the conversation because so much of the propaganda of the Trump administration and their supporters is thinly veiled racism. The "caravan frenzy" is the latest example. I'm curious if you're as passionate about whites breaking our laws. So answer the question. [/quote] Start a new thread. We are talking about illegal immigration here. The Bundys have nothing to do with that. [/quote] Stop being dense. The reasons I bring this up is that so many anti-immigration nonsense in this thread is based in supposed "rule of law" ... but only, it seems, when it pertains to brown people. I'll let your deflection stand as a response. Think we both know it's not the law you're so worried about. [/quote] But but but...the GOP propaganda machine says that “illegals” are responsible for TONS of crimes. Why would PP care about FACTS when he hears what he wants from FoxNews? It doesn’t matter to him that the rate of crime for undocumented immigrants is LOWER than it is for people born in US. Because to him it FEELS like they should be more violent. So if FoxNews hints at that then he eats it up. Fuels that fear and anger big time. Personally, I'm more fearful of angry white men, who are statistically more likely to rape and/or murder me. Something should be done about these violent offenders... [/quote] Here’s the thing you won’t admit. We have hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans who have lost their lives or loved ones because of crimes of illegal aliens. Others have been victims of rape or robbery. The simple fact you won’t admit - THESE CRIMES WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF THESE PEOPLE WEREN’T HERE LIKE THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN. A friend of our family was killed by an illegal alien driving drunk. He was a great guy with a promising future. The illegal alien got 3 years. Pitiful. I don’t care WHAT the crime rate is. Anything over ZERO is too high. We have enough crime in this country from citizens. Why the hell do we need to import more? And, BTW - I don’t care what color their skin is. White, yellow, black, brown, pink, purple..... [b]I care if they are in our country illegally.[/b] Period. [/quote] Why? Why is this particular issue SO important to you that you'd put a lunatic like Trump into office? To punish that drunk driver? If you're so worried about another family friend getting hit by a drunk driver then why aren't you out pushing for drunk driving checkpoints - or other measures that would actually cut down on drunk-driving related deaths? Is the cost of eliminating that 0.00001% chance that it's another illegal alien really worth it to you? [/quote] I answered your question (as have many others) if you bother to read the posts. I underlined my response above. Why are you so against enforcing our borders and allowing illegal aliens into our country?[/quote]
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