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[quote=Anonymous][quote]Well, don't suck me back into Oppression Olympics, but I'd say - from a historical perspective - it's slavery. But that doesn't explain the high out-of-wedlock births now. The rate is much higher than a generation ago. Why?[/quote]

DP.

Unwed births in the U.S. are up from a generation ago for all demographics.  Your question of "why" applies to everyone.

It can also be applied to the values of any cultural or ethnic group as viewed by an outsider.  Fortunately, no one is collecting data and statistics by race or ethnicity on unmentionables like infidelity, white collar crime or domestic abuse.  You can keep all that stuff hush hush while you brag about your kids' test scores.

The fact is, schools in the U.S. are failing our entire American culture.  That goes for K-12 and higher education.  It goes for the poor and for the wealthy.  There's too large a percentage of people who are left unprepared to contribute to society or even to support themselves, let alone a family. And those of us who are more fortunate either have to pick up the slack and support those who aren't or reinforce the steel toes on our boots and kick them down. We are so much closer to a caste system than a meritocracy that any discussion of values like the one in this thread is a sad joke.

Do you not see the irony of sitting with that as an acceptable reality while blathering on about who "values education" more?  If you truly valued education, you would demand that everyone get it.  Get it?[/quote]

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