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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think Republicans keep losing on this issue because they are sending mixed messages. For instance, they argue that all abortion is murder and that life begins at the instant of conception, but are okay with abortion bans that start at 15 weeks. (If life begins at conception, then abortion is just as wrong at 13 weeks as it is at 16 weeks.) Or that only abortion doctors, and not women who receive abortions, should be punished for having an abortion. (If a husband hires a hit man to murder his wife, do we say that only the hit man should be arrested and charged with a crime?) Or that abortion is okay in cases of rape and incest. (Why should method of conception matter if the baby is innocent?) Republicans are failing miserably on the messaging because people can clearly recognize that they are talking out of both sides of their mouth.[/quote] Vivek Ramaswamy was on CNN last night trying to make the same argument with a straight face: "We are losing on abortion because our messaging is terrible, we don't do a good job of selling this to the voters, blah blah blah...." Kaitlin Collins was dumbstruck by his argument and was like "Maybe - after 7 straight losses - the Republicans' policy on abortion is just out-of-step with voters?" To which Ramadwamy replied "No, we have a messaging problem." These people are in such a bubble of group-think. They are going to keep trying to force anti-abortion measures on people at the local level. The Ohio GOP elites are in full revolt against the voters of the state. [/quote] More of the doubling down and insisting that it’s just the messaging here from JD Vance. They just don’t get it. [twitter]https://twitter.com/jdvance1/status/1722311695140298978?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg[/twitter][/quote] Look, all these men [i]know[/i] this is a losing issue. That's why they are now talking about things like voters mistrusting their intentions and how they have to really show how pro-life they are. This is simply a ploy to re-package a deeply unpopular viewpoint and sell it as something else. They tried this right after Dobbs came down. Megan McArdle had an op ed in the Washington Post talking about how they had to now put their money where their mouth is and truly support women and children. The comments were on fire - pointing out that the GOP had FIFTY YEARS to advocate for funding that support, but were only interested in it now that they could restrict women's choices. Also, JD Vance is a tool.[/quote]
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