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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am the PP who argued in favor of prisoners' dilemma for the Hardy 5th/6th grade transition.

(For the record, I have not made any posts about BASIS or OP's nationality.)

I wanted to raise something before, but did not want to derail the thread. No fear of that now, as it's already been done!

The main difference between the PD game and the stag hunt game is that PD has only one stable equilibrium (sell your friend out, sell your friend out), whereas stag hunt has at least two (cooperate, cooperate) and (do not cooperate, do not cooperate).

As I mentioned above, I think PD is more appropriate to Hardy, and I think our observations of reality back that up. Meaning, Hardy's very low IB percentage, 13% now and more or less persistent year after year, seems to indicate that (avoid Hardy, avoid Hardy) has been a stable equilibrium. Note: this can still change!

The idea I wanted to raise is that I think there is another place in DCPS where the stag hunt game is more applicable, and that is at PK in up and coming elementary schools.

Here, many high-SES people start at PK3 in ESs with very bad test scores in the upper grades. Each year they face the question, should I stay or should I go? Do I stay and cooperate to build this school into something better, or do I play the lottery for a charter or better DCPS?

I think for this PK graduation game, stag hunt may be appropriate. I think there are probably at least two stable (Nash) equilibria there, with one being (stay and cooperate, stay and cooperate). We are a little early to see if the observations of reality support this theory, and I have not thought very deeply about this, but this is my intuition at least.

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first off, many who start in PK3 cannot do it in their IB school because there is not enough room - so the question is not if, but when should they leave.  For example, IB Brent parents are lotterying into Van Ness this year, which, remembering that this is DCPS, may be entirely in trailers for a few years.  Considering the value many people place on neighborhood schools when kids are small, I think you are starting too early.  Also, considering how expensive the private preschool we went to now is we might have done this for our kids somewhere since we are public all the way - and we are Deal Wilson.

The real question is what was shown by the performance of the white kids at the ES schools where the DC CAS scores were terrible - that for ES, you can safely make that decision and not worry overmuch.  I will never look at a parent again and think that they are sacrificing their kid on the altar of ideology at that level for the sake of learning other lessons about life etc.

But even there, you have a multitude of factors to take into account with these vested OOB feeder rights - you get into a Ward 3 school zoned for Wilson even if it feeds into Hardy, I think you go, and I think you play every year.  Few will succeed, but you can see how hard everyone tries.

Thus far, there are very few charter schools that go all the way through that cater to the population you are talking about, and DCI sounds like a bit of a mess. So......

You have a good point, but parents think long term here, and when the long term prospects are no good, you try to jump whenever you are given the choice.  For many right now that is Hardy.

My prediction is that the lottery pool for OOB at Hardy will change as the IB pool changes......... but it is still a lottery.[/quote]

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