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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous]CNN just said that Charlie will be published next week and instead of 60,000 copies printed, there will be one million.

I find some of the cartoons questionable but I would gladly purchase a copy if I could.[/quote]

And Yasir Qadhi couldn't have said it better:

"Can you imagine if a racist cartoon, or an anti-Semitic cartoon, caused some physical attack, that news agencies around the globe would reprint those cartoons?! 
Somehow, when it comes to offensive images against Muslims, it becomes necessary to display those images continuously in order to make a point: "You had better allow us to say and do whatever we will, without the least care and concern of decency and morals!"[b]
Again, this is NOT to justify these brutal attacks, but it is to point out the double standards that do seem to exist when it comes to mocking Islam. It will come as absolutely no surprise to us to find out that a satirist in the EXACT SAME newspaper was fired, and then put on trial, for an anti-Semitic article that he had written (See: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/…/French-cartoonist-Sine-on-tria…). And previously, I had quoted a story of a similar nature regarding the Danish cartoon controversy: the same newspaper had refused to print cartoons mocking the Holocaust.[/b]
There is no doubt that killing these cartoonists is not allowed (firstly, the entire issue of blasphemy laws and its application in the modern world of nation-states is being discussed by leading scholars, and there are multiple views on this; secondly, all those who quote incidents from the Seerah: I reiterate, it is impermissible for a person to take the 'law' into his own hands and be judge, jury and executioner even in an Islamic land - how much more so when Muslim minorities are living in a land that is not ruled by their laws). 
At the same time, it is also idiotic to continue provoking a group of people who have a long list of their own internal and external political and social grievances that stretch back for many decades (here I mean the N. African Muslim population of France), and then expect that nothing will happen.
As usual, we are stuck between a rock and a hard stone. On the one hand, we have the excesses of our own internal angry followers, who always justify every violence because of what 'they' have done, and on the other hand we have the arrogance, intransigence and hypocrisy of segments of the Western world, who cannot see that they as well have a huge part to play in the rising tide of anger and violence."[/quote]

Not a fan of that article. You/he are talking out of both sides of  your/his mouth. Let's see. Freedom of speech should allow me to wear a burka, but it's arrogant, intransigent, and hypocritical to use your freedom of speech to publish cartoons that are offensive to me. Violence is wrong, but you're as responsible for the violence as the attackers because, uh, you used free speech in a way that's offensive to me, and this diminishes accountability for the violence.

Not a fan of the New Yorker article, either. Coming up next.[/quote]

I am not. I cited the niqab ban to show the hypocrisy of the freedom of speech discourse. If Muslims are expected to accept the danish cartoons in the name of Freedom, then they should be allowed to dress as they pleased in the name of that same freedom. Nowhere in what was posted was it ever said that Violence was right or should be expected because of published cartoons or personal grievances of Muslims[/quote]

PP again. [b]To be very clear about your freedom of speech double standard, you have argued that
1. Women should be allowed to wear burkas freely, but
2. The cartoonists should have shown restraint.[/b]
Just to re-emphasize, others here have not accepted that the niqab ban is purely a freedom of speech issue, instead they have brought up issues such as a society preserving its own values (like KSA does) and protecting women from having the burka imposed on them (despite your you tube video, the jury is still out on what percent of women chooses the niwab vs. has it imposed. I could bring any number of ex-Muslim feminsists to counter your Yourtube video, except that I think such anecdotes are pointless.)

Your double standard about violence goes as follows:
[b]1. Violence is wrong, of course, but
2. The journalists should have responded to threats of violence by publishing nicer cartoons, that is, they were "idiots" to not simply cave into threats of violence and thus partly culpable.[/b][/quote]

No, that is not what I said. I said: You can not call for freedom of speech for cartoonist when you ban the freedom of a part of your population to dress and practice their religion as they see fit. The reasonings behind the niqab, the number of women forced to wear it, ex-muslim feminists are quiet frankly irrelevant since we are talking about freedom here. Why do states have the right to dictate how people dress and then come around and say we are a free open democracy, that is hypocritical. KSA and the so called "Muslim" countries you talk about do not go around labeling themselves as Free Open democracies and nobody sees them as such.

To your second point about violence, again, stop misquoting me,  that is not what I said. The point was it is IDIOTIC to continue reprinting the cartoons just thinking that will make a change. You think people who are willing to kill will just say: "Oh, they are republishing the cartoons, we will stop killing people"?  The West will always talk about freedom but are they objective? In the UK, an advert showing a pregnant nun having ice-cream was banned because according to The Advertising Standards Authority, “it mocked Roman Catholic beliefs”. An Australian man was charged with mooning Britain's Queen Elizabeth II .  And finally, even if you / Newspapers or any one Mock Islam / Muslims , We and what Yasser has been trying to consistently repeat is that we do not respond to it with violence. So your Entire attempt to debate into  violence..is like a senseless argument with yourself Not with some one else. Nobody defended it, in fact we keep trying to tell people not to be provoked, and responding with violence is a hypocrisy because its against the teachings of islam.[/quote]

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