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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm not a McDuffie supporter. I've posted several negative things about him in this thread and my main complaint is that I don't really like either of these candidates.

The tone of the JLG support in the thread is very off putting. I think some people are just posting reasons nable arguments for her (thank you) but there is one or more posters who keep spamming the thread with long talking points that aren't even related to education, making snarky and rude (but not substantive) arguments attacking anyone who expresses skepticism about JLG, or making ad hominem attacks like "you hate teachers" if someone expresses disagreement would th JLG or the teachers union.

I made the point that NEITHER of these candidates are right with it extreme (were talking about two different brands of Democrats, not Nazis) and the response was to immediately compare people who don't support JLG to Nazis.

You need to log off.[/quote]

You’re being disingenuous, there have been McDuffie posters lying about teachers and our ‘agenda.’ The WTU is teachers, not a separate entity. Therefore, saying things as a non-teacher about what we want is the same thing as what some JLG posters are doing.

You try to come off as a ‘neutral’ person but it’s clear you are not or you would be disagreeing with both groups. Some have even said things like ‘oh you are writing like this and your a dcps teacher’ -saying or implying they are stupid or the like.

And it was a McDuffie posters lying who mention JLG voters were like the Nazis first. Which is why it was stated that if the Neo Nazis we’re to choose either of these people it’d be big business Duffie.[/quote]

The WTU is not equal to teachers. First, there are many teachers in DC who aren't even in WTU. Second, not even all WTU members fully support everything the WTU does and says. I know many DCPS teachers and none would talk about the union the way it's being discussed in this thread -- they support the union but view it as a separate entity from themselves, and don't support every single thing the union does or its leaders say.

Also, it's estimated than fewer than half of WTU's members are DC residents. So not only does the union not equal teachers, it also doesn't equal the will of DC voters. It's a special interest group, that's it.[/quote]

Where is your data? I could say it’s estimated that over 95% of you on this forum are white and only care about other whites.

Just because you say something doesn’t make it true.

The union IS teachers. It’s full of teachers and the like. Some absolutely don’t live here and don’t care -that’s true.

If we are going to compare the WTU to special interest groups (that are killing children -funny how you all choose that one) that’s what this group is. Full of gentrifiers and those who’d like all ‘the poors’ -who are generally POC to get out of your way.

DCPS teachers aren’t good enough for you unless they are in an affluent NW school -which often translates to predominantly white teachers.

This is why in every other DC forum they call this one nasty and full of toxic people. [/quote]

Wow.[/quote]

DP
I think sometimes some of you all don't know how your words and actions look to many POC. This country has a divide and so does this city.[/quote]

Please explain why stating that the WTU does not represent all teachers makes someone racist and classist. I actually don't understand. Or saying WTU is a special interest group (that is definitionally what it is) or pointing out that not all WTU members are DC residents (this is simply true). If these are racist or classist things to say, please explain how, I want to know.

I'm also baffled as to how in a mayoral race between two black, liberal candidates, this debate devolves into people calling each other racists. Is the suggestion that McDuffie is racist?

FWIW, most white people I know are voting JLG, she seems to be the consensus pick of white progressives. I know more black people voting McDuffie than white people. I live in Ward 5 and people are more family with Duff. They don't love him, but he feels like status quo to more people. My black neighbors and friends tend to be more conservative (little c) in that respect -- the devil you know.

So I am genuinely confused by the allegation that not voting for JLG, or not fully supporting the WTU and everything they do, makes me racist. But if I'm missing something, please illuminate me.[/quote]

Oh so the nazi comments are conveniently forgotten? [/quote]

I have not called anyone a Nazi in this thread. In fact I explicitly said that no one in this race nor any of the supporters on either side are Nazis, because I think the rhetoric around this race is bizarrely amped up for two candidates who are honestly very close to each other ideologically.[/quote]

But others have. The point is often times it seems people on this forum are unable to be cordial. Whether you vote for JLG or Duff, at the end of the day we all have to work together to help fight for all public schools. There's no need to say any candidate hates or doesn't want something unless they have said it or shown it explicitly through their actions.[/quote]

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