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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]182 dead (mostly children, all innocent non-combatants as far as we know) and there’s at least one poster in here who is not only refusing to just say “It looks like we F’d up, that’s horrendously tragic, and we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard when we’re attacking other countries and expecting the world to view our conduct above that of a rogue regime”, but REPEATEDLY engaging in Whataboutism and intentionally misrepresenting what others have said and done throughout the thread.[/quote]

20-30 thousand innocent non-combatants were hunted for sport and shot in the streets of Iran by Basij and IRGC and there's at least one poster here who repeatedly keeps trying to minimize and deflect from these kinds of far greater tragedies inflicted on the Iranian people, while shrieking that talking about it is dishonest and whataboutism, who keeps persistently calling us names, accusing us of being "Zionists" and otherwise trying silence and control the conversation, attacking anyone who doesn't side with their "intentionality" framing around the Minab school bombing.  Nobody here has denied the bombing happened, nobody here celebrated it, nobody here has said it wasn't a tragedy; if anything they've questioned the narrative (probably from this same poster) insisting that kids were targeted knowingly and intentionally and that "we" are "killing civilians for sport" despite the lack of any concrete evidence for that to date.

We also are apparently not going to be shushed and scolded and yelled at if we talk about the hundreds of innocent non-combatant civilians killed in Israel, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia etc by Iran's barrages of ballistic missiles and waves of drones, we aren't allowed to suggest that Iran f'ed up and what they are doing is horrific.  And only some of us are supposed to own up to mistakes made by leadership we didn't even vote for, while the poster himself expects to be given a pass and refuses to own up for repeatedly making false and outrageous comments like suggesting we think it's "ok to kill kids" and many other things, which are absolutely not misrepresentations.

That pretty much sums up the last bunch of pages here...[/quote]

You realize that 100,000 Palestinians were killed, 200,000 more were injured, and millions were starved during an ongoing 2.5 year campaign of daily war crimes and crimes against humanity?

Iran is facing an existential threat. Trump has basically said that he plans on sending them back to the stone age (the simple pronouncement of which can be constituted as a war crime by the way).

Israel's genocidal campaign is inexcusable and America is protecting that decrepit place. You can't compare that with Iran's reaction to a psyops campaign by Mossad/CIA to foment domestic chaos followed by an asymmetrical defensive war against 20 nations and counting.

I'm not sure how you can call all the Arab countries that host American forces as innocent. Look at the map. They have been attacked from almost all of those countries.

So in your zionist worldview. "Preemptive self-defense" is okay when you drop bombs on schools, hospitals, airports, and downtowns. Literally a Pearl Harbor job. However, "reactive self-defense" in response to the aforementioned war crimes by a more formidable adversary is somehow bad.

No one is claiming that Iran is a great place. But they are a sovereign nation with an elected president, and are one of the member nations of the UN. We have no business conducting a war against a country that poses no threat to the homeland. Should we also invade North Korea? They're actually the only country that poses a semblance of a real threat to America since they have ballistic missiles that can hit us.

History will judge and Americans have not been kind to the war crimes that America has committed in the past. How can Americans even hold their heads up high knowing that this is happening? And it happened in Venezuela. And is happening as a proxy in Mexico. And will happen in Cuba and probably Iraq and Afghanistan again as well. We need to remove the traitors from the government.[/quote]

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