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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If it is it ok to say believers are stupid is it ok to say atheists are stupid?  
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Well, no.  In the couple of posts prior, there is evidence for the "stupidity" of believers.

The atheists have demonstrated the opposite, intelligence.  [/quote]

Some believers are quite intelligent, though it doesn't show through in their belief in God.   Also, some atheists are not so smart, except regarding their lack of belief in God.

I am no smarter now that I am an atheist. I am simply better informed.[/quote]

I don’t believe that theists are, in general, stupid.  But many clearly have to retreat to illogical positions to support their theological ones.[/quote]

I believe that anyone who insists the flying spaghetti monster lives under my bed is less rational than me. They're making a claim they can't back up with reason or evidence. There's no reason to hold to the belief, and yet they do it anyway.

To me, irrational = illogical = stupid. [/quote]

Sure, that's fine, you can make it that simple if you need to.  I don't quite see it that way.  People who aren't stupid can have stupid ideas and do stupid things.  We all do sometimes.

FYI This is not a defense of theism in any way, it is an entirely irrational position with grossly insufficient evidence for it.[/quote]

It’s not clear, but the PP could have meant that the [i]positions[/i] were “irrational = illogical = stupid”. Describing the behavior, not the person.

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Yes, that is exactly what I said - but if you read the thread (and it is not all quoted so you'd have to painstaikingly backtrack, so don't expect you to) but the statements were the opposite - describing the person as stupid.  [/quote]

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