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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tours can be a double-edged sword. In some ways the Covid kids had it best - no pressure to tour, no getting swayed by silly things like weather or a bad guide. OTOH I know of several kids that year that wound up at really bad fits.

Surprised on the upside: 
BU - good energy, great for a kid who wanted urban (but we are in NYC and I want them to leave for college so NYU was not on the list)
Wesleyan - thought it might be too woke, but there seemed to be a nice mix of kids. Small but not painfully so.
Williams - I thought the campus was beautiful (it was too small for DC)
Georgetown- so much great energy, you really felt that you were in the political center of the universe. Did not see issues with "garbage" that other posters have mentioned.
Pitt - the NICEST people and great energy.
Binghamton - everything about it felt really solid, and the in-state bargain is hard to pass up.

Surprised on the downside:
Penn - smug tour guide, overly competitive vibe, campus an odd jumble of construction.
Tufts - so painfully dreary and nerdy. I wanted this to be DC's ED choice and he wouldn't even apply afterwards.
Haverford - woke hell.

I did not go to the Chicago/Northwestern tour but DC loved both and is at one of those now.[/quote]

I am curious how you can tell from a visit/tour that a school is "woke hell." I feel like they all acknowledge native lands, etc...what was it about the tour that made you feel this way? (it's on our list but haven't toured yet so this is a legitimate question and not trying to start a debate).[/quote]

It's a good question. I am not allergic to all things woke, but Haverford felt very heavy handed. First, the native lands thing went on and on - like an entire history lesson. It seemed like the entire tour wound around FGLI/LGBT - like, instead of "here's the student center" it was "here's where the LGBT groups meet in the student center." Haverford also runs by honor code, which is theoretically admirable, but it seemed like in practice the students were encouraged to rat each other out, which made me uncomfortable and wonder whether kids are judged on how well they fit into the "community."[/quote]

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