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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To answer OP's question - I'm not sure. For example, did Virginia Tech roll back their diversity initiative strategic goal?

"Reaching 40 percent URM/USS in 2022 was a key strategic goal proposed by Virginia Tech President Tim Sands in his 2017 State of the University Address and included in the university’s 2019 strategic plan, "The Virginia Tech Difference: Advancing Beyond Boundaries."

How would we know if less qualified students were accepted over more qualified applicants without some kind of audit?

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This is a question to OPs question:  How would most people know unless there are audits or decisions are made out in the open?[/quote]

Who determines a universal definition of "qualified"?  [/quote]

What do you think the qualifications for physics, comp sci or engineering schools for example? One would have to be pretty good at math and science, don't you think? How would you measure that?[/quote]

Well, as a math major who has always scored 99th percentile on anything math, I can tell you that the question is a lot more complex than you want to pretend.  Even within math and science, there are a range of different types of intelligences, and people can have varying views about which abilities are more 'valuable' or relevant than others, and whether the key relevance is to the workplace or academia.  And that's before you even assess people on soft skills and traits like persistence or whatever.  Different programs want different things.[/quote]

As another (well, 98 on the math and verbal SATs both, but I also had fuill blown strep and 102 temp--I never had test prep, I only had a vague idea of what the SAT was even for, I just took every test they told me to take; GRE was 99) I agree.

Frankly, as a 98-percentile SAT person with high GPA, I did fine with college academics but as far as all other aspects of college social life or career planning or anything, I was hopeless. I grew up in a working class family (1970s) in a small town where the only careers for women were teaching, nursing, retail, and restaurants. I didn't even know what you did with a college major regardless of the major. I was shy and introverted and my own family was a mess. My post-college life reflects that more than anything else. I'm  willing to bet that there are many 90th percentile SAT black women from working class--or poorer--neighborhoods who went to college who have done a ton more with their education and careers than I ever did. [/quote]

But that's how it goes. DH's family went to college, and I mean everyone. The people in my family, if they went, bumbled along cobbling together a degree from this and that college. I managed to get my degree at one place but I know I missed a bunch of opportunities. Yet, here I am in a better place than other family members. And I can guide my kids to do better than I did or so I thought. They did so much better than I did but here we are.[/quote]

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