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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok, but students do get rejected from safeties who rejected 90%+. [/quote] I see this happening to my niece. Rejected at some true safety schools as part of yield protection. And she didn't show enough interest. So you need to be careful. My take is make sure some of your safeties are the big schools who care less about this.[/quote] Get over the yield protection thing. How many times do have to tell you that public schools (which generally includes high admission rate schools) DO NOT yield protect?[/quote] You are wrong, esp. in regards to OOS students. Michigan and Georgia Tech are two prime examples.[/quote] Your argument doesn't make sense. Why would either yield protect? Kids aren't exactly overqualified for either. This is nothing more than trying to justify a rejection. [/quote] How else do you explain how a lot of applicants from my kids' top tier private with SCEA admits to HYMPS are deferred, while their slightly-less qualified classmates are accepted EA to Michigan? The data on GT, I'll admit, are thin. The pattern at Michigan is clear though. [/quote] +1 [b]Michigan 100% yield protects. They certify that they do! [/b]In CDS demonstrated interest field. 6 students with HYPSM admits were deferred at Michigan, including my child. We did not bother submitting LOCI and I dont think any of the others did as well, since Michigan is like 4th or 5th choice at this point. Of course we did not know child would be lucky and the essays were of same quality as for T15 privates. [/quote] Then how on earth is anyone supposed to get into....well, let's not call it a safety, since Michigan is not, but how is anyone supposed to play it safe by applying to schools they're overqualified for?[/quote] For Michigan in particular, you have to convince the admissions officer that you were likely to attend in your essays. They cannot be an afterthought. You might actually spend more time on those essays then for higher ranked schools.[/quote] My advice, if you are still reading: For any selective school's supplement: if any other kid could write your supplement, you are doing it wrong, and haven't researched and tailored it to your facts and circumstances. My DD, admitted to Michigan EA OOS, started working on the Mich supplement in June or July. Wrote many drafts. Finished it in early October. Applied in early Oct. And then continued to refine that shell or storyline for several other T20 Why Major/Why School supplements. And at the end of the process, no other supp quite looked like the Michigan supp - it was well thought out, personalized, detailed, and unique. The brainstorming and research took a while. It's more than listing classes and professors (if they wanted that it would be a 150-200 word essay). Its more how you think about engaging with your academics at Michigan and being a Wolverine and what that means to you.[/quote] Colleges encourage this type of lying and then decry the lack of ethics among students. What a shame! [/quote] Isn't this what you do for every college's supplement? What's the difference? Where's the lie?[/quote] Presumably the essays for schools the student actually wants to go to are honest.[/quote] Who has multiple schools on the same level of "want to go here"? Below 1-2 top choices, everything else is "meh, could deal if I had to."[/quote] Our school makes kids rank the top 5 (private HS) and asks in 1-on-1 meetings in January.[/quote] Yes, but I bet 3-5 (maybe even 2-5) are basically the same. Even for top privates where it's Ivy or bust, one school floats to the top and the rest are backups.[/quote]
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