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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Doctors are the only highly paid professional that can get away with regularly being late to meetings with their clients. Bankers and lawyers certainly don't make their clients wait well past their appointment times. [/quote]

We have said over and over on this forum that doctors do not control their schedules these days. They have back to back appointments and sometimes double booked appointments made by administrators. This is why doctors are going concierge and why you all need to go find a practice like this. It should solve all the issues here. [/quote]

This is like screaming over and over again: "Just be rich and stop complaining!" Especially silly since that is indeed what rich people are already doing. [/quote]

But it's just a business. Right?

If you can't pay for something, that isn't a business's problem.[/quote]

I don't believe it is just a business.[/quote]

You must be new to this thread. That's a new position, at least as being expressed by a non-doctor. Welcome!

Can you please elaborate on what the additional responsibilities or other factors are that make it not just a business? That will help in figuring out how to solve the problem.[/quote]

I am not new to it. I think many doctors do view it as a business. Part of it is needing to make a living and a profit. I think as a result some patients view it as a business as well, hence the concierge model. [b]I don't think I seriously need to explain to a doctor that literally being able to save/kill someone through proper or improper care makes the job more than a business...[/b][/quote]

Would you say that this sort of responsibility isn't shared by lawyers or bankers?
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It is shared by lawyers depending on their field. Not bankers. I am assuming you are bringing this up because of the scheduling/lateness issue. I am the one who posted the ENT/Derm post. I don't believe that timeliness is necessarily a reflection of the doctor's quality of care at all. A derm who spends 1 min with someone with so many moles is a bad derm.[b] I think what baffles me most in this entire thread is seeing doctors defending bad care.[/b][/quote]

I don't think doctors here are defending bad care. The derm you referred to is unlikely to be hanging out on DCUM, right? Nobody commented on that, and that doctor isn't here. Where is the defense?

You do see doctors here saying that for them to deliver the care people on this thread are criticizing them for not doing, they have to leave the old system and do it on another model.

Did you want a doctor here to agree with you that the derm you saw should spend more than a literal minute doing a skin check on someone with 100s of moles! Sure! I can absolutely say that a derm shouldn't spend a literal minute doing that. I'm also happy to say that a teacher shouldn't take more than three months to enter grades (not you, obviously, PP -- but we aren't just talking about the people on this thread), and that a lawyer shouldn't be billing for time they didn't actually spend (also not you, PP).

What bad care is being defended by a doctor in this thread? Can you quote one of those posts?
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The original question is clearly posed by someone who resents patients for being patients. How is that indicative of good care? Then the whole thread devolved into doctors being defensive. It doesn't make any sense to me. If you are a good doctor, I am sure you know you are and patients tell you so or show you so by wanting to remain in your practice, writing good reviews...And then there are always some unhappy, rude people, but the big picture remains. So why be defensive? What are you even defending yourself from? No patient on earth has any issue with people providing great care.[/quote]

You think the OP was delivering medical care in that post?[/quote]

Obviously not. I think they are a disgruntled doctor.[/quote]

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