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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s fun to try to blame wealthy people as cheaters. That’s just a distraction and coping mechanism for the real issue. the real issue is URM test performance across the board, including at the new TJ.

For those against equity policies, the TJ admissions changes are showing in real time the results from PSAT to SOLs to math levels. And the results aren’t good.

Now I dont necessarily disagree with opening TJ for all, but let’s not pretend the URMs weren’t getting in before because cheaters. URMs perform measurably worse than their non-URM peers. Otherwise we wouldn’t be addressing those gaps all the time in various academic environs.

That still hasn’t changed. Yes even for URMs at TJ, the gaps still persist.[/quote]

Expensive test prep has also been an ongoing issue that [u]exacerbated[/u] the lack of representation from many MSs and groups.

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Sorry. Those rich kids would have outperformed URMs without the prep. This is just a basic fact of education in the US for the last 50 years. It’s not the prep. Sure [b]prep may make the gap a bit bigger[/b], but it’s not the reason for the gap.

It’s parents. Always has been.[/quote]

Yes, that’s why I said “exacerbated”.

Kids can’t choose their parents. [/quote]
That’s the gap in the score. Not attendance. URMs haven’t been able to fill out roles at TJ or close the gap in average schools across the country for ever. The admissions change was not about test prep; it was about accepting reality.[/quote]

Does extensive test prep (including access to prior quant-q questions) increase the chance of admissions? Yes.

It exacerbates the problem. It widens the gap. 
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I don’t think you understand.

Poor kids were never getting in over rich kids regardless of prep. The gaps are too large without the prep. Rich kid test prep just pushes out hard working middle class kids.

now it’s prepped kids and bonus point kids[/quote]

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