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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This makes me sad that people are really arguing for keeping a grandma from her grandkid. My mom is the most gentle and kind person ever, but grew up in a culture where giving swats was a thing (and where people who were swat as kids do grow up to be kind and productive members of society). My mom would swat us as kids (never hard) but just as a way of saying "no." I made it very clear that we don't do that today with kids in the US and she has never swat my dd, but sometimes older people need to learn these things, especially when they come from different cultures. [/quote]
And yet, somehow your mom has learned this [i]without[/i] having to hit your child first. So it's not some sort of "coming of age in the USA" or some shit, clearly it's possible. Why are we giving violence a pass just because it's some old person? [/quote]

Calling swatting "violence" is exactly the kind of catastrophizing and extremist language that makes me sad on behalf of society today.[/quote]

+1000 Language is being weaponized. [/quote]
+1 the over reaction and hyper snowflakeness of younger people are creating a bunch of people with no resilience and being too sensitive. [/quote]
So you're ok with a teacher, librarian, police officer, fast food worker, crossing guard, etc "swatting" your kid? [/quote]
I'm ok with grandparents disciplining my kid. Not strangers or non family members.

Do you expect the teacher to parent your kids? Do you treat the like family.

You people have completely lost the plot. You think a grandparent is like a teacher or a fast food worker.  gtfo, and go seek therapy.[/quote]
So the line is family? So second cousin Al is ok to hit your kid? Or what about a 20 year old nephew who is upset about something and your kid frustrates him juuuust a little too much? Or maybe Auntie Jane drinks a little too much wine at dinner and your kid says something she doesnt like, its ok if she slaps their mouth? Or sorry - swats - their mouth?

Not wanting this to happen to my kid doesnt mean I'm a "hyper snowflake", it means I take my job to love and protect my children as their parent seriously. [/quote]

DP but it the honest answer to all of your questions is “it depends”.  For example, if my 12 year old called Auntie Jane a fat f***ing b**** and she slapped him across the face, I’d be fine with it and you’d better believe the kid would be apologizing TO HER.[/quote]
And what it if was something a 4 year old would say? "No, I don't want to give you a hug" or something?

I dont think its appropriate to slap a child even for swearing like that, but thats not really what's in discussion here. [/quote]

You (or the other poster) brought up tipsy Auntie Jane.  Not my problem you can’t handle an honest answer.

As for what IS being discussed here, if my mom or MIL gave my four year old a quick smack on the leg because he kept kicking his shoes off when she’s trying to get them on him… I’m also fine with that.  And I would make him apologize for being so disrespectful and disobeying his grandma.[/quote]
The point was that this thread isnt about a 12 year old, its about a 4 year old. So its irrelevant. [/quote]

The thread wasn’t about a drunken aunt or a slap in the face either, ya doofus.  If you don’t want the discussion to veer into irrelevant territory, then don’t bring up irrelevant scenarios.[/quote]

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