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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unless the Think the insurrection clause does not require due process (ie a conviction FOR insurrection) this will be overruled so quickly . Honestly the judges ruling this way should be removed from the bench and disbarred. Despite what you think of trump everyone is entitled to due process [/quote]
The clause mentions nothing about a conviction, and was designed to bar former confederates who wouldn’t have been convicted of anything.[/quote] so the due process clause doesn’t apply? That’s your argument ?[/quote]
The due process occurred weeks ago when the court determined that Trump engaged in an insurrection as the clause in the 14th describes. [/quote] so that court tried Trump for insurrection? [/quote]
That court determined that Trump engaged in insurrection. The clause in the 14th makes no mention of conviction and was designed to apply to confederates who wouldn’t have been convicted of anything.[/quote] so the argument is it’s the 19th century and Trump is a confederate ?[/quote]

Well the current protections of the 2nd amendment are arguing that it's the 18th century and private citizens are a militia designed to protect the right to a free state.  So if you think that the 14th amendment from the 19th century is outdated, then the 2nd amendment from the 18th century should also be outdate and that there is no need for private citizens to maintain or be a member of a militia.

And no, the argument is not that he is a confederate.  The 14th amendment does not specify that they be a member of the Confederacy.  It specifies those that engage in insurrection (violent rebellion against the government).  Trump gave his speech at the Jan 6 rally and urged his followers to march up to the Capitol and object to certain Congressmen performing their Constitutionally mandated jobs.  He also encouraged Mike Pence to take actions that he was not legally entitled to take.  So, he definitely engaged in the mob that descended on the Capitol and there is no lack of evidence that the mob behaved violently causing a significant amount of injury and damage and tried to interfere with Congress passing the electoral college vote, a Constitutionally mandated process.  So, there was definitely violent rebellion to prevent the government from operating and duly electing their next commander-in-chief.  That's insurrection; and Trump most definitely engaged in the acts of January 6.
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