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Name two examples.

The only reason why it would ever be bus lanes OR bike lanes, instead of bus lanes AND bike lanes, is if you're trying to preserve general-travel (car) lanes or (car) parking. [/quote]

Connecticut Avenue (where the plan is to add bike lanes, but not bus lanes) was brought up in the first post of the bus discussion, and multiple times in the discussion that followed. The fact that you're trying to ignore it just underscores how difficult the decision is to defend.[/quote]

You can add bike lanes by taking away some parking, because bike lanes are narrower than car lanes. You can only add bus lanes by taking away car lanes. Do you really think the reason the CT Ave plan only includes bike lanes is because of the bike lanes? Or could there be some other car-shaped reason?[/quote]

"Some other car-shaped reason?"  haha.

FWIW, I decided yesterday to cut across the city on H st and used the bus/bike lanes which were fine except that there were cars driving in them.  But I also noticed that those bus lanes there are HUGE - easily probably a lane and a half in size (like 15 ft).  On my way back west, I went north and hit 16th street around Park to Columbia to see up there and their bike lanes were smaller closer to regular lane size.

I'll just reiterate that as a cyclist, a bus lane on either size for the outside lane, that has protection during the mid-block to KEEP CARS OUT 24/7, would be fine by me.  Nice and roomy lane.  An even better would be the PA ave configuration (protected bike lane at curb, bus lane next - with travel restrcited to just buses during rush hours and allowing for parking), but not sure that would fit on Conn Ave.  PA Ave looks to me like its about half again larger than Conn Ave is.[/quote]

Yes, despite the what-about games that one PP is clearly playing, I'm sure everyone who wants the bike lanes on Connecticut would be very happy if there were bus lanes instead, that bikes were allowed to ride in. But if people think the BIKE lanes have been controversial, wait to see the reaction if the city proposes banning cars to make room for buses...[/quote]

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