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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel horrible feeling the way I do, but as someone who has been threatened by a crazy person on the train, on a bus, and just on the street, I don't feel much sympathy for this crazy person.

Question for the people who do have sympathy for this crazy person: have you ever been confronted by one and do you expect to likely be that situation again? I  have and I do expect it will happen again.

My suspicion is that many of you live your lives insulated from those kinds of people. Maybe that makes you more objective than me. My feeling certainly comes from concerns over my own safety.[/quote]

This particular homeless person had previously attacked three different women unprovoked and had a warrant for one of them.  This particular homeless person did not just yell at people and scare them, he hurt people. [/quote]

On the day he was murdered he did none of that. He did nothing but yell about food and wanting to eat.[/quote]
This is objectively false.[/quote]

True he also threw his jacket on the ground.[/quote]

And?  Come on, you can do it.[/quote]

And then was murdered.[/quote]

I think you need to read about his history of assaulting and hurting people and being arrested repeatedly. He should have been hospitalized long-term. [/quote]

His history is irrelevant… you cant kill someone’s because they assaulted someone 8 months ago.[/quote]

Exactly, PP. Prior history does not matter--especially since no one on the train, including the marine who placed him in the headlock, knew about it! So prior history was not a factor in the marine's decision to put him in a headlock. That decision was based on only what the marine saw with his own eyes, and what he saw did not include an actual assault. [/quote] 
How many times does it need to be said that you do not have to wait until someone gets assaulted before intervening?![/quote]

He apparently shouted threats and it's quite possible that a former Marine veteran could have taken these threats differently than others.   You don't know if someone is armed or not and if they will or won't act upon their threats.  FWIW, the guy declaring that he has nothing to lose could have explosives strapped to his body or another weapon.  A veteran who had served in Iraq could have perceived this as a different level of threat, he also may have PTSD (which isn't uncommon in veterans deployed to war zones).

The point is when you make your city an open air asylum it puts stress on all the citizens who become more guarded, more anxious doing mundane everyday things like walking around and taking PT, and in some ways becoming unhinged in their own ways, or becoming indifferent and emotionally removed.   A situation where one violent person runs into another one with issues is bound to happen.

Eric Adams BTW has enabled police to remove erratically acting people from the streets.  He got a lot of backlash for targeting homeless under the pretense that they may be danger to themselves or others to remove them from the streets.  [/quote]

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