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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If this was as big of a problem as this board makes it out to be, the homes is Palisades would simply not continuously sell for as much as they do. We recently moved away from the area. It was nothing compared to the helicopters you constantly hear on the Hill (where we lived previously), which was also fine. I don’t get this fixation. [/quote]
Is it your contention that it doesn’t diminish the value of those homes? [/quote]

My contention is that there is a small, loud minority that is fixated on this issue—people who are overwhelmingly wealthy and have little else to worry about. It is a lovely area, full of lovely and very expensive homes. It is, and likely always will be, generally priced somewhere between Glover Park and Wesley Heights given the overall character of the neighborhood. If you want to show me a property value decline in response to changing flight paths, go at it and good on you for being “right.”

But more than anything, I think [b]the vocal minority continuously drawing outsized attention to some airplanes is more of a risk to property values than the actual planes. [/b]

Palisades is still in the city, despite its suburban feel. But from living there, enjoying our backyard nearly every night there was even decent weather, and taking our kid to parks continually during the weekend…I don’t get this crusade. Be grateful to live in the neighborhood you do—it’s a good one. [/quote]

That all may be true, but this is exactly why the disclosures are warranted. Give people the facts, and then it’s a free and informed choice. There are many buyers who felt gaslit and didn’t have the information or the time to appreciate the problem (“some planes” = approaching a 1,000 per day). It’s a lovely neighborhood, but it has a disclosable problem. I know people who are not only miserable after the NextGen, but feel negative effects of the attitudes of their neighbors too (being mocked etc). It’s not fair. Make it fair and then enjoy your choice as you wish. People will still buy there, and someone upstream said there is no effect on real estate. Ok, but today’s situation is not fair to the buyers. It’s also imho not fair to the residents and it’s hard to influence the change when a whole bunch of people don’t want to draw attention to the issue.[/quote]

It escapes me why something that is public knowledge, i.e. the existence of a flight path, needs to be disclosed by the seller. Assessing the neighborhood is on the buyer. It is a much different thing than hiding something about the house that cannot be discovered until you live there, e.g. that the basement floods with every storm.[/quote]

In my experience, not only is it hard to tell during 1-2 visits that were the max possible in the buyer’s market, but the real estate agents have purposefully minimized the situation to the prospective buyers. We once insisted on sitting in the bedroom in an otherwise modern house to see how bad it would be (it was borderline on a Sunday, a disaster on Monday). That made it clear how distracted we tend to be during the open house or home visit; these are quick and there is a lot to see plus there’s quite din typically. Didn’t know about the pollution then. We walked and like the other PP are very glad we did.  That was our personal choice, and we respect that the others have theirs and a higher tolerance. But it’s not fair to claim it’s not an issue.[/quote]

If you are considering the neighborhood, I assume you did not go there just for the 1-2 visits of the actual house. It is the buyer's problem if they do not do their research. All the information is out there and it is not hard to visit the area you are considering to live in. I am not claiming the noise is not an issue for anyone, but I am just annoyed when buyers who did not do their research act like someone intentionally mislead and fooled them. If they bought without doing their due diligence, that is on them.
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