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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level. [/quote]

Almost, but not quite![/quote]

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference![/quote]

This!  A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies.  Love it.[/quote]

Georgetown has crumbling buildings and mold to offer students. I don't get why anyone would pay private school tuition to go there.[/quote]

You post this on every single thread.  I'm sorry you were denied.  It's probably time to move on. [/quote]

It is impressive to me that Georgetown continues to attract such impressive students and rank as highly as they do with their financial limitations. If they can continue to invest well and generate high-end donations, they have a lot of upside.

Gtown is tied with Emory this year but has an endowment smaller than many of the elite liberal arts colleges (Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Wellesley, and Bowdoin).

Peers like Emory, WashU, Vandy, Rice, USC, Notre Dame, and NYU all have endowments of over $5.5 billion compared under $2.6 billion for GTown. $$ is a real issue for Georgetown.   [/quote]

Idk if Georgetown is an academic peer of Rice and Vandy. Their admission statistics must be very different. [/quote]

[b]Georgetown does not use the common application, so the applicant pool is self selecting. As such, many hypothesize that their actual rate of admission would be much lower if they did.[/quote][/b]

You have posted this in numerous forums over the last two weeks, yet never provide a cite.  It's simply not a true statement, although you want it to be[/quote]

Dp, but I agree.  My kid wasn’t willing to jump through the Georgetown admission hoops, but would have applied if they accepted the common app.  It’s pretty stupid decision on Georgetown’s part than turns off a number of qualified applicants.  [/quote]

If you can't be bothered with the 'admission hoops', then Georgetown doesn't want you. [/quote]

A lot of top students are fine with that, but  it isn’t in the university’s interests to have an increasing smaller applicant pool.[/quote]

They don't need USNWR to validate them.[/quote]

A former Georgetown dean asserted, as to why they won't join the rat race and move to the common app to boost ratings: “we don’t succumb to the false gods.” :lol: [/quote]

No. The real reason Georgetown doesn’t join the Common App is because they don’t want to encourage those with financial need. Relative to other well-ranked schools, Georgetown’s endowment is dinky, which impacts their ability to provide needs-blind admission. If they admit few with need, they can still tout their aid. Georgetown is not on any “best value” list. [/quote]

Most schools do not have much of their endowment devoted to undergraduate need based aid.  A lot of the endowment may not even have anything to do with the entire undergraduate program (i.e., it belongs to the medical school, law school, graduate business school, etc.).  Most private schools (and some public schools) build their aid budget by charging well-to-do students more than the cost of attendance and use part of the surplus to fund aid for lower income students.  It is a redistribution.[/quote]

Some aid is redistribution, but the most elite schools who offer the most grant aid and a needs-blind admission policy DO have endowment funds dedicated to this cause. If was just redistribution, more schools could offer great aid. It takes dedicated funds. [/quote]

Yes, they do have endowment funds for aid, but it is far less than the amount that comes from redistribution at most schools, including those that are need blind.   [/quote]

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