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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]as to the rest of your post, your kids benefitted from the ultimate hook. why can't you just admit that? the data from Harvard is unambiguous- 85-90% of recruited athletes would not have been admitted to Harvard based on their academic rating. [/quote]

Why do you assume that athletes aren't qualified academically?  In the vast majority of cases, that's just not true.  Educate yourself.  The Ivy League uses the Academic Index, which guarantees team averages for recruited members are observed.  Stop kidding yourself. There are plenty of kids with 2350 SAT who are valedictorians and National Merit finalists and editors of the school paper, and who have service hours on top of that, who also excel athletically. I lived with some of them.
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Have a read:  https://www.nber.org/papers/w26316

And if you're too busy to read it, here's the punchline:

"The admissions advantage for recruited athletes appears to be even stronger. Admitted athletes have significantly worse credentials than non-ALDC admits, and in some cases, non-ALDC applicants."[/quote]

Yes, if your kid is talented enough at their sport, has stayed injury free and managed to compete at the national level ( or close to it ) they just might be recruited by an Ivy, who depending on the sport can offer as many as 6 " likely letters" to HS seniors who commit ED, BUT..... they have to pass the pre-read for their major AND SAT scores are a mandatory part of that.

An Ivy is only allowed to give a tip to a recruited athlete who is within 1-2 STD of the non-athlete admit standard FOR THEIR MAJOR. Maybe Football, Hockey and Crew can get a one athlete who is 3 STD off, but NOT the whole recruiting class.

So, to be one of the kids who you seem to think unfairly is accepted ABOVE your DC, those recruited athletes need to be A/ A- students taking all AP, get no worse than  1480-
1500 on SAT AND be a nationally ranked athlete in their sport ( meaning top 100 in USA in Tennis, Top 25 in XC or in their event in Track, IDK how BB or Crew are ranked, but you get the idea. These students need to be capable of scoring for their IVY as a Varsity Athlete in Div 1 from their Freshman year

Sorry, but if they also have the grades to be admitted to study Physics or Math or Engineering they are valued by the schools[/quote]

it's nothing about fair or unfair. it's about recognizing what's going on. since you want to make up your own stories rather than take the fifteen minutes to read the study, here's the rejoinder from the study to your point:

"Being a recruited athlete essentially guarantees admission even for the least-qualified applicants. A similar calculation, but in reverse, emphasizes the advantage athletes receive. An athlete who has an 86% probability of admission—the average rate
among athletes—would have only a 0.1% chance of admission absent the athlete tip."

everyone wants to think that their hook isn't a hook and that their kid is deserving. which puts them in a position to argue all other hooks are bad and denigrate other kids who get in on something else. but at the end of the day, a hook is a hook is a hook. you can't have a conversation about what this topic if you're going to live in a state of denial. yes, colleges are fully entitled to have hooks. and no hook is more or less deserving than any other. [/quote]

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