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Either someone started everything from nothing (theists)

Or nothing started everything from nothing (atheists).

Not quite. Once again because it looks like you missed it:

The theist's position is that "Nothing started something from nothing (which is essentially the atheist's position), then that Someone started everything from nothing (theists)."

Atheists win by Occam's Razor. At least if theists want to keep the fig-leaf of rationality. Probably wiser to admit "it makes no sense, but it's what I believe" which is what others have said.

I'm not PP, but I think I missed it, too. Atheists think no one started everything, where as theists think someone started everything, no?

No, theists think that no one started everything as well: there was nothing, then there was God, then there was everything. Atheists think there was nothing, then there was a singularity, then there was everything.

Calling the singularity "God" gets us no closer to understanding. Actually further, since there's the possibility physics will uncover the provenance of the singularity; theists want to shut down the operation.

Ok, got it this time. Thanks.

Not sure what you mean by singularity, though. Why can't the singularity be God? One could argue that physics theories and laws are just a human effort to describe the world around them. The same way people use religion. Could be that both serve the exact same purpose for the human race.

No, absolutely. Let's call the singularity "God". But that's just a matter of semantics. We still don't get the super-human powers (omniscience, omnipotence, etc...) I think you're right about the second bit, though. Far be it for me to try to take God away from the theists. Just answering the topic: we don't generally believe in god because it's irrational to do so. That's the "faith" bit.  [/quote]

I like you, PP!

How do you explain things that can't be explained through science?  Do you believe in fate or destiny?  Or only in conicidences?  When you hear stories from people who have had near death experiences, do you believe there is a scientific explanation for everything?

To me, God is as real as my computer screen or keyboard.  I feel it in a way that makes it as tangible and "real" as the love I feel for my children.  But I am pretty far out there in a lot of ways.   I also believe in soul mates.  I know a lot of the scientific types would see me as a lost cause. 
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Not sure there are "things that can't be explained through science".  There are things that haven't been explained, but that's the beauty of the open-ended system.  As far as things like near death experiences, true romantic love, and the beauty of a sunset, all these things are wonderful.  I'm incredibly lucky and thankful that against incalculable odds, I was born--and that my daughter was born as well--whom I love more than anything.  If it were all taken away tomorrow, I'd still feel as though my existence were "miraclulous" in a non-religious sense, and would cherish the short, precious time I'd been allotted.

Not sure what "god" gets me over and above that, other than as a distraction from the work at hand of savoring the gift of life in this improbable universe.

[P.S.:  Consider any references to "gifts" etc... as poetic license, not evidence of a "Giver" :) ][/quote]

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