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I hear a lot of info to be sympathetic to (nothing I didn’t already know though), some glossing over some details that would paint him in a worse light (who he cheated with, how bad the financial mistakes really were), and also some very subtle excuse making while saying he owns his mistakes. He’s a good salesman, he’s legit been thru a lot, and he put some people who cared about him thru hell. It can all be true at the same time. Just like Jen could be frickin annoying with her shilling post-Brandon career, but also have been legit pretty badly devastated both emotionally and financially by his actions. It’s weird people think it’s an either-or. Nothing either person has said really invalidates the other persons experience…[/quote]

Before you all all gooey for what Brandon is pitching, remember this (above), he fooled a lot of people for long period of time. Because he is a salesman. There are details he is simply NOT going to share because they are too icky. The ally? Who was she? Where did he meet her? What "couldn't be unseen"? One time physical thing? Really? The money? Financial devastation? Why? How much? There were warning signs and only the closest to him were able to pick up on it. I've still got a soft spot for Jen, shilling or not. She has been the major bread winner in their family for long time and he was basically unemployed for those 3+ years. Out flaunting his money and buying all the toys and probably courting his "ally" with Jen's money.  [/quote]

Agree with this. I don't like Jen's schilling, but I do admire her hustle. Moping after a career hit is such a man thing to do.  Jen absorbed the hit and pivoted. Coming out for equal rights for LGBTQ community was the correct move, even if that move was leaked early.  They have five kids, had two houses, contracts, commitments.  There is no time to sit around moping when you have that much responsibility.  And it wasn't Jen's responsibility to fix him.  He locked her out of his emotional journey.

I do feel bad for the loss of his friend.  Sitting in a hospital room and dealing with a life changing/ending brain injury is terrible for any person, let alone being the driver in the accident.  I've been there myself, it's tough, and it's a shame he couldn't make it out of that on the sober side.

I assume the thing that couldn't be unseen was photographic proof.  I don't believe the physical betrayal was a one time thing. He admitted to it after she had evidence.  I think Jen found out about the money, pills, cheating all in one day. Even then she may have been willing to fight to save their marriage, but Brandon was already gone. I'm sure once confronted he angrily explained all of that to her, and how he considered the marriage to be over.  When liars, cheaters, and addicts are caught it's a massive blow out.  He glossed over the reality of what went down (which is his right, I just don't find it sympathetic).

Even then, she had to rebuild alone. So yes I[i] hate [/i]the schilling and the over the top-ness, but it seems to sell. She is employing herself and a team of people. That's a lot of responsibility to shoulder.  It's not the choices I would make, but I've never been dug into such a hole. I'll keep my average corporate job, and anonymous suburban life.

I found Jen because of her family blog posts and relatable stories.  That has to come to and end, even if her personal life hadn't blown up.  Kids grow, become adults, move out and you have to rediscover yourself and your relationships.  The reality is Jen and Brandon's divorce isn't all that different from many over in the relationship forum.  There would be no sympathy for an addict and cheater over in that forum.[/quote]

If he really did blindside her like that he should count himself lucky she didn’t go Goodbye Earl on him. [/quote]

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