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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is the real reason people don’t believe Blake: she talks about Justin like she’s annoyed by him, not like she’s scared of him.[/quote]

It was always a little weird that a harasser would target up. That doesn't jive with most people's experience of harassment. [/quote]

It isn't unheard of. Didn't Taylor Swift win a judgement against a local radio dj? I'd say he was 'targeting up' in that case.[/quote]

That's assault, not harassment. Again, this is problem with you pro-Blake people, you keep conflating Justin's actions with assault to obfuscate what actually went on in this case and it's annoying.

This is why earlier on this this thread I was asking if there was any research literature on the difference between assault and workplace harassment; it would be worthwhile to look at the difference, but again, I doubt any researcher would want to tackle this because if any of the findings didn't confirm people's beliefs (i.e. anyone can be harassed no matter what, a white woman's word is law, etc.) then it'd be considered problematic. [/quote]

DP. It may be a different tort, but I think the logic carries. Why would he grab Taylor Swift's ass when she's powerful enough to get him fired? But he did.[/quote]

Different poster, but it’s really hard to compare. Taylor was a young popstar. This was before her 1989 album when people started taking her seriously. She was seen as bubblegum country teenie bop. He thought he could grab her ass and have a funny story to tell his friends. He greatly underestimated her.

That, and by the time it actually went to trial it was 2017, the culture had changed, and Taylor was also taken a lot more seriously by that point.

It’s really hard to compare or to think that justin underestimated Blake or wasn’t taking her seriously. The first meeting they had before she even signed on was in their penthouse surrounded by their staff and Ryan was there. A month later before  they even set the schedule or stepped foot on set Ryan and her were making demands like changing the schedule and changing locations. she clearly had a lot of leverage and power from the start. So yes, that is part of the reason the public has found some of this hard to believe.

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