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Well, here's an interesting article.

https://www.insider.com/heat-dehydration-kill-family-hike-common-tragedy-survival-expert-2021-10[/quote]

I feel like this article says what the experienced hikers and people from hot climates were saying in the first 50 pages of this thread, once the details about this trail were released.  If you go to the Grand Canyon, there are a ton of signs warning people about water, etc.  As you go down into the canyon, the temps rise by 20 degrees or more, and then of course the return trip is MUCH harder than the trip in, because the return is uphill.  People always underestimate that.  The rule of thumb at the GC is that if you want a 3 hour hike, turn around before you hit the end of the first hour, because it will take you more than 2x as long to hike back out.  
And when my kid goes on Boy Scout hikes around here (so not extreme heat), I think they tell him to bring two 2-liter water bottles just for himself.  I seriously wonder whether this was one of those situations where each parent thought the other one had packed an additional bottle or two, and by the time they realized it, they were already there and didn't want to cancel the hike.  Let's be honest -- we've all had the experience where you get there and realize the water bottle was left on the kitchen counter, or you both say "I thought you were bringing it."  Its so sad, all around.  [/quote]

Funny you mention the Grand Canyon. My 22 yo DS went on a road trip this summer to western National Parks with college friends, and they hiked partially down into the Grand Canyon. One of the girls - very fit, cross country runner - got heat exhaustion and DS and his friends had to carry her up and she was Medavaced to the hospital, where she spent 2 days recovering. He said she was completely incoherent, spasming, vomiting - they were trying to cool her down with water, but she passed out as they were carrying her and they kept checking her pulse because they thought she had died.

It is so sad. May they RIP.[/quote]

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