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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The details being discussed right now have absolutely nothing for the US in this agreement. Sad.[/quote] There is Peace for USA.[/quote] We had that before he started the war. So, he started a war, surrendered, and is now sending our money to the country that defeated us. ART OF THE DEAL.[/quote] It is Iranian money that was kept here that we are going to send back. Everyone who was against the start of the Iran war now should support the end of the war.[/quote] That's different. Iran gets $300B for reparations AND unfrozen assets (probably +interest). We were told Trump was a deal maker playing 4d chess. This is pure surrender. Consequences of this war will be born by US population. What consequences is Trump facing? I say we cut into the $300B by seizing Trump assets.[/quote] Again - get a grip and educate yourself. The $300 billion is a reconstruction fund made up of private investors and companies from the Gulf countries and elsewhere around the world. The U.S. isn't paying Iran one cent. And Iran *only* has access to the fund if they comply with the rest of the agreement, to include no longer pursuing a nuclear weapon. The frozen assets (no interest) belonged to Iran in the first place. [b]I'd say this is a pretty good deal.[/b] DP[/quote] Ok - keep telling yourself that. Nobody trusts anything coming from Trump and his cronies so their assurances about the sourcing of the $300B is probably BS. Given the way Iran has been dogwalking Trump, not holding out too much hope that the final agreement will be any better. Iran still holds all the cards and Trump and his RE agent "negotiators" are out of their depth. Still say that seizing Trump & family assets is a good way to pay down some of the costs of this excursion.[/quote] Ok, you're clearly not a serious person. This is a good deal, as long as Iran holds up their end of the bargain. That remains to be seen.[/quote] Given the contours of this agreement, why bother to have a war. Trump could have capitulated to Iran without spending hundreds of billions of military hardware and lives.[/quote] The US did not achieve a single one of the goals it stated were the reason for the war. All of our GCC allies no longer trust our security guarantee and will be looking elsewhere, likely china. The Iranians have come out of this with no more sanctions, release of $100B or so of frozen funds, $300B in investments, and permanent control of the SOH. There’s no way to spin this as anything but a disaster for the US.[/quote] I can spin it as " cut your losses" and move on.[/quote] No you can’t. “Cut your losses” would have been with the previous poster said. Trump could’ve just said “I’m done peace out” But no! instead we’re GIVING them money AND removing the sanctions. If you don’t care about Americans, then at least think about the Iranian people who’ve been suffering and now are going to suffer even more under this brutal regime that has been handed money and power on a silver platter from Trump[/quote] Sanctions don’t work, the ruling political elites become black market traders and accumulate wealth while the regular citizens suffer. Iranian people are mostly young educated and technologically connected with time change will come from within.[/quote] Handing Iran billions so they can better afford to keep those kids from organizing definitely isn't helping them. Before this war the government of Iran was facing massive protests. We come in and kill a bunch of civilians and install even more hardliners in their government and have set those protesters back likely decades. We 100% have made things worse for anyone in Iran who was pushing for reform.[/quote]
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