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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The group organizing people like Good and her wife to commit “direct action,” need to be federally investigated and charged with criminal conspiracy.[/quote] Bwcause protesting is now a crime in this country? GTFO[/quote] It is disingenuous to pretend there is no difference between verbal and written expressions of dissent and physical actions meant to provoke, intimidate, disrupt, and otherwise interfere with entirely legal government activities with which you happen to disagree. Claiming those actions are "illegal" does not make them so; only the courts decide that. Disagreement does not imply an unfettered right to physically oppose. [/quote] Understand, ICE no legal standing for traffic enforcement. The team in question was not on a mission, but rather were heading to their HQ for a break. There was no reason or justification for them to stop their vehicles, much less approach any cars, particularly those of native born US citizens. So you can stop with the false narrative that you are trying to spin. The American public understands what happened here, and it is only the MAGA zealots who are trying to contort what they can see with their own eyes through several angles of the same event. And oh, the irony that MAGA wants to send troops in to help the Iranian public shut down their religious based evil dictatorship government without looking in the mirror.[/quote] That claim is flatly wrong as a matter of law. Immigration and Customs Enforcement does not need traffic enforcement authority or an active arrest “mission” to be protected while performing official duties. Federal statutes including 18 USC 111 and 18 USC 1501 make it a crime to obstruct, impede, or interfere with federal officers. Courts have consistently held that officers are covered while driving official vehicles, repositioning, staging, or returning to headquarters. Whether they were “heading back to HQ” is legally irrelevant. Blocking or confronting marked federal vehicles is still interference even if no traffic stop was underway. Citizenship also has nothing to do with this. ICE does not need immigration jurisdiction over someone to arrest them for obstruction. If people intentionally blocked or impeded clearly identified federal officers in uniform, that alone provides lawful grounds for arrest. What people think they “saw with their own eyes” or how they frame it politically does not override federal law that applies to everyone, regardless of party or ideology.[/quote] ICE is not law enforcement. They have no jurisdiction over US citizens who are not suspected of committing crimes directly related to immigration. Again, get this through your thick skull.[/quote]
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