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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione[/quote]

Disagree.  They’re simply divergent species of good guy.

Penny protected his fellow citizens on a micro level. Mangione did so on a macro level. Both saw something that needed doing, and stepped up.

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Hard disagree. Penny didn't plan to kill anyone. In fact even in the moment I don't believe he was trying to kill Neely -- I think he used "excessive force" due to adrenaline and the intensity of the moment.

Mangione planned and executed an assassination. Thompson was a really terrible person but that's still murder with prior intent.

What if Mangione had taken his Ivy League degrees, money from his family, and passion regarding a broken healthcare system (including coming from a family that profited off that system) and become an advocate for changing the system? I think it would be as effective as what he's done but without murdering someone on a city street on a Tuesday morning.[/quote]

You really think there’d be this much national discussion and dissection of UHC’s horrible practices and insanely overinflated CEO salaries because of some rich kid becoming and “advocate for change”?[/quote]

(1) I have zero faith the current conversation will last or result in any change. It's getting lots of attention now because of the murder and the manhunt but that's where the focus is -- on Mangione and his crime. I think in a month no one will be talking about UHC, they'll install a new CEO and claim they are going to investigate internal claims practices, and then no one will care.

(2) There are non-violent stunts that could have garnered as much attention, yes. Occupy Wall Street got a ton of attention and had a lasting impact on perceptions of how Wall Street handled the sub prime crisis and rising income inequality especially for young people. And that was without being particularly well organized or having a strong message -- OWS was kind of a mess. But Mangione was young, unattached, with money. If he'd used his brains to stage a series of protests, sit-ins, and disruptions at UHC events, yes, it could have had the same impact. He was a computer engineer -- hack the company or their shareholder meeting or whatever.

There are lots of ways to garner attention other than murder, and actually I think murder will turn out to be a poor catalyst for change because MANY people will disregard Mangione's "point" simply because he did something violent and heinous to make it. He's probably turned off people who would otherwise have been on his side just because a lot of people are never going to get on board with the idea that killing someone in cold blood is a good way to make a political point.[/quote]

One can disagree with murder yet agree with the criticism of for-profit healthcare. [/quote]

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