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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My opinion is that atheists are cowardly. They claim believers cling to God for childish comfort, but really they are the ones who can't trust in something unless it is spelled out for them in a colored textbook. Even then I have a feeling they suspect that the next scientist/theory will disprove the ones before so refuse to go "all in" on anything.

Again, just my opinion.[/quote]

All atheists claim and believe that? Any proof to back up that statement? Or, maybe it's your opinion you're trying to pass off as fact? That's all this conversation boils down to. I have an opinion based on available information, theories and facts. You have the exact available information, and your opinion is different.

Why do you have to apply negative stereotypes? That doesn't make either opinion more or less true. Does it make you feel better to talk about people like that? Can I suggest you check out the red words in your holy book? It has some guidance on how to treat others in a positive and meaningful way. [/quote]

Again, my opinion.

God gives us an ideal to live up to, no one is there. That includes me.[/quote]

I can see why you're super-religious. It's a lot easier to be a judgemental, shiity human being if you can point to gods and ideals, and shake your head about how we're all fallen. If you don't have gods to point to, and you act like an asshole, then guess what? You're just an asshole.[/quote]

Sure, since you base your values on what feels good to you personally, I guess I'm an asshole. *shrug*[/quote]

This is pretty rich comedy, given the history of Christian "values". You guys have been so darned consistent with your immutable moral laws. From slavery to marriage equality for gays, every single step of the way, you've been leading the cha.... Oh, wait, every single time you

Religion often gets called a failure when compared to science because it's predictive ability is so low in the naturalistic world. When it tries to make empirical claims about the world, it is inevitably, inerringly wrong.

But the real failure of religion--one that's pretty much plain to see for anyone not steeped in any particular religion--is just how terrible it is at making [b]moral and ethical[/b] claims about the world.  Imagine how much more quickly the arc of history would have bent towards justice if the Christian bible had stated, unequivocably, that every human being was equal in the eyes of God, and that racism, much less enslaving other humans because of racism, was a mortal sin, full stop. It's totally awesome that your religion "caught up" about two millenia *after* it was founded, but it would be nice if you guys actually had something to say about moral issues *before* everybody in the civilized world already came around.

So, please, spare me the pretensions to moral absolutism. Given the choice between getting my values out of the First Century BC Middle East Farmers' Almanac on the one hand, and basing them on "what feels good to you personally" the latter sounds much, much more preferable.[/quote]

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