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The Koran set down rules for the early stages of Islamic conquest to provide order and discipline.  These were no more barbaric than the prevailing practices and in many cases were more civilized.  These really should be viewed as a historical artifact.  But again we run into the problem of mainstream Islam refusing to see important parts of the Koran as very specific to the age.  Instead, they maintain that all parts of it are applicable forever.  (This is the problem of the co-Eternal Koran I've mentioned before.)

So PP gets stuck defending an ancient practice when none of us would want to be in the position of defending much of the Crusades or the Spanish inquisition.  She coyly alludes in her arguments to historical context but can't come right out and say that those lines are about the past and have no relevance to modern times because that would violate the view that the Koran is in fact in its totality applicable to all times and places.

i get the sense that PP is subconsciously there, though, but it would take a great deal of--dare I say--fortitude to come out and say the Koran is not co-eternal and not everything it says is valid today.  And further that ISIS is barbaric and heretical for claiming they can do all that they do in God's name.[/quote]
I agree with you but a very serious obstacle to the candid Muslim discourse is the burden of "today I perfected your religion for you."  It is an article of faith that the Quran is eternal, immutable, good for all days and ages. It puts thinking Muslims into a very uncomfortable position of having to defend practices that were advanced at their day and age, but left in the dust in the 21st century.  It makes them say weird things like "Quran bans slavery. It doesn't? Oh anyway, Quranic slavery is not like white slavery. What's so bad about it anyway?" It's not specific to PP.[/quote]

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