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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The two different posters who talked about the weird mix of students at Ivies… I wonder if that’s true at other highly rated/hard to get into schools as well.. like Williams, Haverford, etc. I imagine MIT and CMU and other stem focused schools might be different, but maybe the schools that prestige-chasing students/families attend are all that same weird mix. Is it a uniquely Ivy thing? 
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Any of these top schools have 25% of the students with test scores lower than 1450.  50% lower than 1520.  That's where the "weird mix" comes from.  Then there are test optional schools where at least 30% did not submit scores.

Really there is only about one third of the students who are competent.  [/quote]

Test scores have nothing to do with whether students are competent. Seriously? [/quote]

NP. Of course test scores do. Assuming even split, a 1400 kid with 700 in math understands most high school math concepts and can solve math problems correctly with reasonably high frequency. But the fact that they managed to only make a 700 after a few sittings means there are three to four "harder" questions they seemingly always missed. That's the mental ability part they don't have. This often translates into them performing slightly below average in challenging STEM subjects at top ranked schools. Kids with near 800 math will continue to outperform these 700 math kids on these subjects.[/quote]

Do you really think like this in every day life? Where is your data that a 700 math kid will perform weaker than an 800 math kid in STEM subjects? A lot of SAT is pure luck based on the questions you get that day. There's also brain development and maturity. Even Harvard says each year kids come into Harvard without Calculus and end up very successful in STEM majors. There is learning that happens in college. [/quote]

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