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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sorry to interrupt this thrilling but completely irrelevant discussion of 1960s food but this is the actual problem.[twitter]https://x.com/jreinermd/status/2029213077091037605?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg[/twitter][/quote]

The discussion of 1960s food was meant to refute a favorite anti-vaxxer talking point: that our “advancements” in food and sanitation led to the decline in measles deaths and complications, and not the fact that we started vaccinating people.

In short - the early 1960s was better in almost every way the crunchies value, and kids died. A lot of them. They didn’t stop dying en masse until we started vaccinating en masse. As we are seeing now, all the hygiene in the world isn’t moving the needle - we are seeing complications at the exact rate we’d expect from past experience. [/quote]

Are you going to just pretend that measles deaths and infections weren't dropping going into the 1960s? What caused the death rate to go from 12/100k to 0.21/100k in the years prior to the vaccine? Why do you dismiss the 11.79/100k drop, while holding the 0.21 drop as some sort of miracle? [/quote]
Why do you seem so determined to go back to where we had that many deaths? Were measles cases declining before the measles vaccine was introduced? Yes, they were—and that’s a fact worth acknowledging. But the rate of decline after vaccination dwarfed anything we saw before. While we saw gradual improvements over decades, the introduction of the vaccine in 1963 triggered a stunning 97% drop in just five years.[/quote]

Let’s also point out that there have been very few advancements since 1963 that would predict continued future success.

As a people, we are less healthy now, and our doctors have very little experience with measles and its complications. Yes, we have ECMO and intubation and can remove part of the skull cap and largely keep things sterile now. But no kid is walking away from that kind of involvement at 100%, and we haven’t figured out how to stop the blindness or more insidious brain damage. Deaths might be worse than they were in 1963, not better. [/quote]

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