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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are any of these players going to go professional? The entire premise seems like a money grab for desperate parents.[/quote]

I would think that 10% of their football team has a legitimate shot at the NFL, and 50% is probably D1 caliber.[/quote]

Let's move the decimal place here. Even at historically established football powerhouses like Mater De, Bosco, Aquinas, etc, their players have a <1% chance of making it to the NFL.

Let's take IMG for example since they have the most amount of active players in the NFL. IMG started playing football in 2013. They currently have 21 active NFL players and 31 players ever drafted. Let's UNDER exaggerate and say that every year they have at least 100 kids in the football program across their multiple teams (they have far more). So 1200 athletes in 12 years, only 31 made the NFL. That's roughly 2.5%...

No way STJ's current roster 5xs the odds.

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Do you not understand the difference between legitimate shot and actual percentages?

Much can happen in 4 years of college so it makes perfect sense that the team has 10% with a legitimate shot as a HS senior which translates to 1% actually making the NFL as college grads.

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Do you understand that you think 1 out of every 5 players at STJ has a legitimate shot of making it to the NFL?  :roll: [/quote]

Are you capable of simple math?  10% is of course not 1 out of 5.

The top 10% of players on a team ranked in the top 20 in the nation in fact at that point in time have a legitimate shot at the NFL at that moment in time. They are 4 star and 5 star recruits.

Will 10% make it to the NFL?  Of course not.[/quote]

There is not a single player ranked a 4 or 5 star by ESPN, 247, or any other ranking service on STJ…

STJ is also not ranked in the Top 20 in the nation. MaxPreps ranking is all that matters.

STJ is ranked 6th in VA. Are you insinuating there’s 6 VA teams ranked in the Top 20 nationally? 
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Yeah but they are the best team in Virginia.  [/quote]

Based on your opinion. But ranked by people who actually know what they’re talking about, they’re the sixth best team in VA. [/quote]

I mean...they are ranked #2 in the DMV and absolutely destroyed Good Counsel.  I am sure a game against Dematha would have been a great game...hopefully they schedule more WCAC teams next year.

Are all the top VA football teams in southern VA?[/quote]

Good Counsel went 6-5 during a down year, not exactly a great measurement benchmark.

Yes, the top 5 Virginia teams are outside the DMV.

Still waiting for someone to post all the 4 & 5 stars that STJ supposedly has  :roll:

Or where they’re ranked in the Top 20 in the nation :roll:

People just spew the most uninformed crap on here lol[/quote]
Good Counsel had a far more difficult schedule than any of the Virginia teams you are talking about. Those teams probably wouldn’t come out on the winning end if they had to face Good Counsel.  Look at what happened when Oscar Smith played Gonzaga.

And most NFL players were only 2 or 3 stars in high school.   Five stars make up about .01% of the NFL.  There is far too much transformation that needs to occur to tell if a high school kid will make it to the NFL.  However, the two kids I know that play for Saint James dominate the way a future NFL player would’ve when they played high school football.[/quote]

Post the 247 or ESPN profile of those two athletes that dominate like future NFL players that show them as even 3 stars.

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One kid that I know who dominates is a sophomore d-lineman and he wouldnt get a star rating until closer to his senior year.

The other is a wide receiver and 3 star Maryland commit.  He has the size and speed.  Again, a lot needs to happen, but I can see these two getting there.

Josh Allen was a 2 star, Dak was a 3 star, Patrick Mahomes was a 3 star, Lamar Jackson was a 3 star, etc.

These kids are still in high school.  You are putting too much stock into a 5 star rating.[/quote]

If he dominates like you say he does as a sophomore, he’d have a star rating. For example, Stone Bridge has 2 sophomores already rated as 4 stars and 247 already has a top 100 for the class of 2028.

I’m not putting any stock into an any star rating. I know walk-ons who have made the league and ranked players who didn’t make it thru their first year of college. All I’m doing is pointing out that you/whoever said that “STJ is 4 & 5 star players”, is simply not true at all. Josiah is arguably their best player and is only a 3 star.

People say random bs that they think sounds good/believable that just flat out isn’t true. Just trying to stop the misinformation. 
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Saint James would have blown Stone Bridge out[/quote]

Unsure the relevance of this comment to the conversations. Obviously a private school, packed with reclassed players, would beat a public 5A High School... [/quote]
Public schools like Stonebridge have reclassed players too.  And the comment was made because someone keeps bringing up Stone Bridge and comparing their top sophomores to the top sophomore at Saint James.

The guy at Saint James is not a sophomore, can the same be said for the sophomores at Stone Bridge?[/quote]

This is simply untrue.

You can't reclass in public high school... [b]Parents would have to reclass their child in elementary school or middle[/b], but they athlete is the grade they are once they start their 9th grade year. VHSL also only allows students to play 4 years of sports, regardless if they fail, get held back, transfer, etc. Once you enroll as a freshman, your clock starts. Hence why kids reclass when they go to SJA, public to private and not under VHSL rule. Reclassing is also VERY uncommon in the public school pyramid. Stone Bridge may have 1 reclassed kid on the entire roster whereas St. James has countless reclassed players, it's one of Overton's top sales pitches when it comes to recruiting talent to SJA. It was sold to parents repeatedly at their open house on December 21st and reiterated multiple times to the public school players who played in the Senior Bowl on January 4th. Again, this is why you see numerous SJA kids playing their 5th year of "High School" football.

For what it's worth, Bates was never reclassed before or after he transferred to SJA. He's been class of 2028 since he started at Herndon and wasn't reclassed during elementary or middle school. The two 3-star sophomores at Stone Bridge are also true sophomores and were never reclassed in their younger years. My son's played 13U with all 3 in 2023. [/quote]

It's fairly popular to repeat 8th grade for just this reason.[/quote]
Yes, nowadays it is popular for public school athletes to reclass.  Most take a year or 2 off in middle school, they homeschool, and reclass in the process.[/quote]

It’s really not that popular. Does it happen, yes. But is it common, no. I’d bet a sizable amount of my income that there’s less than 5 kids on average, per public high school in FCPS or LCPS, that reclassed for athletics. [/quote]

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