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Anyone who gives their kids and/or other people’s kids if carpooling fast food, including Starbucks

Childless people older than age 35; especially childless politicians and bureaucrats [/quote]

I'm very thankful that people who do not wish to have children do not have them. I'd much rather not see children mistreated because they were not wanted. You're a horrible person for thinking that everyone should have children to meet some kind of societal norm. [/quote]

Societies for thousands of years have been skeptical and wary of childless people. For very valid reasons.[/quote]

Nope, only psychos like you. People do not have children for a million different reasons. You should learn how to mind your own business. I'm extremely weary of stupid people like you.[/quote]

There are no million different reasons, there is always one reason: God/nature/higher power decided that these people do not need procreate their own type. The cycle will end with them. But poor idiots think it is their decision. [/quote]

Hmmm this is an interesting one. As a younger woman (20s/early 30s) I always thought there was something a bit off about people who remained childless past the age of 40. going through my 30s and having my own children I have tried to reserve judgement and quash these feelings. But observing my own circle it seems the functional, successful ones all have kids and the ones with severe mental health issues or other life impediments have ended up childless.
I also wonder if it is a chicken and the egg thing- are the childless mentally unbalanced older women I know that ways because they never had kids? Or did they not have kids because of their own limitations? 
Anyway something to ponder. I would never admit this in real life because it is very in PC. We're supposed to be in admiration of women who are childless and "free". [/quote]

I tend to agree for the most part. I know there are people where life circumstances get in the way. I have an older, childless aunt but she was in a dangerously abusive marriage as a young woman, got divorced, didn’t date at all for around 10 years as a result, but did end up re-marrying in her mid 40s to a man who already had kids (albeit older), she is now in her mid 70s, still married, and loves being a step-grandma. There’s definitely some of that out there with the older generations. Also a lot of people who are middle class and couldn’t afford to treat their infertility issues.

But I do think with most people, it’s their own mental limitations that lead them to not have kids and most of them never seriously date or try to get married either. I wouldn’t say I judge it, but I’m also not going to take life advice from them. To me, they’re living in a state of perpetual adolescence with the same naive arrogance of your average 18-25 year old. [/quote]

You are absolutely judging them. You are judging them because of your own intellectual and emotional limitations that prevent you from realizing that there is absolutely nothing wrong with not having children, whether by choice or because you are unable to biologically. I do judge and feel pity for people like you who simply can't imagine living a life that is at all different from your own.[/quote]

I think this is just a difference of opinion.  Humans are Primates, healthy ones want to pass on their genes. If you dont have that drive at all, then as a primate there is something wrong with you, you have lost some fundamental part of what makes humans human- we are animals. to me this person is plastic, artificial and maybe it is a judgement but there is science to back it up.  someone who is satisfied completely with man made "things" and has no connection to nature is flawed, someone who does but knows that they will be an awful parent is so flawed that they recognize that they are flawed- why can't you recognize it acknowledge it instead of perpetuating the sort of life choices that parents might make that will damage their children so much that they won't want to perpetuate their genes which in an innate drive.  [/quote]

This was an interesting take. I can agree with this.[/quote]

NP. It’s not just primates— literally  every species on earth (as a whole) from bacteria to plants to fish to humans— is innately driven to reproduce. If they weren’t, species would end. If you don’t reproduce, your fitness is 0. That’s just basic biology.

That said, many species, including humans, show individual variation. And if some humans don’t want to have kids, they should be free to make that choice. It doesn’t mean there’s necessarily something wrong with them. But yes, the default is to reproduce. [/quote]

NP. I can’t believe I am adding to this ridiculous thread but if people knew anything about evolution they would also know that in many species there is often an evolutionary role of the allo parent and they sometimes do not have kids. The whole “drive to reproduce” is so much more complex than discussed here. [/quote]

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