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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are a lot of women employed FT in professional careers really saying they have no childcare? That's not what I've seen on DCUM. People are often talking about the extra time for commuting and difference of being out of the house. So like a 10yp may come home from school and not have childcare from 4-5pm because they can entertain themselves while parent works. But the parent may not want them actually alone in the house. It's a childcare gap. Same with the mornings before school opens - I would need beforecare to RTO and it might not be available this school year (already full). Or preschool may close at 5pm but with commute I'd get home later than that, etc.

WFH necessitates childcare if you have a real job but can be for fewer hours, or you cover the occasional days off and breaks without always taking PTO etc [/quote]

OP here - I consider a childcare gap a lack of childcare. Before or after school care programs are not going to quickly sprout up. [/quote]

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And even if kids can entertain themselves a bit or parents find programs, the kids can't magically transport themselves and they can't drive yet. So parents (all parents, dads too) need that flexibility after school. Strict RTO mean that these good employees will no longer be bending backwards to check mails and handle things after business hours. [/quote]

I think you’re ranting about things you have no idea about. Kids can’t transport themselves? The aftercare programs all have buses and vans that pick up [b]at our school[/b]. Parents don’t need to drive their kids to ballet or karate or gymnastics. [/quote]

I'm so glad your data point of one is universal. [/quote]

What school doesn't have that? Give us an example.[/quote]

Our public elementary in DCPS definitely does want have transportation to activities. [/quote]

Elementary school kids don’t need to be bused to activities. aftercare is fine. [/quote]

It is fine. But it’s not great.

Being able to come right home from school to play with neighborhood friends, go to an extracurricular that they’re interested in, or even just have some free play is better. I know being out of the house 45-50 hours/week (i.e. 8-5:30/6) is tiring for many adults, I wouldn’t choose this for a young elementary kid. It is fine if it is what you have to do, but let’s not act like this is more ideal than kids getting to play soccer, learn an instrument, take tutoring classes, go to scouts meetings, etc. and having a family meal together.[/quote]

if that’s your ideal AND you want both parents to work FT, [b]you need a better plan than assuming that covid-era telework[/b] (for positions that are not actually fully remote) will last forever.

I have some millennial coworkers who had kids and bought houses way out in the burbs during covid. I feel for them but truly, they shouldn’t have counted on max telework lasting indefinitely. I also have a GenX coworker who relocated across the country during covid - at least she fully knows she’ll be terminated when they eventually catch up to her. [/quote]

Except the plan had gone fine for over a decade now …

All of you calling telework a “COVID era” thing are really behind the times. My DH is in the private sector and has had some form of telework (either hybrid or full time like now) since at least 2010.[/quote]

But that hasn't been allowed for feds except for at the height of the pandemic. And the pp didn't describe telework. She described bailing from work mid-afternoon to take her kids to practices and activities.[/quote]

What specifically hasn't been happening except for at the height of the pandemic?  Regular telework has been a thing for feds for at least 10 years.[/quote]

Allowing you to be a caregiver for dependents while teleworking was only allowed at the height of the pandemic. It was expressly prohibited before, and that language has almost certainly worked its way back in to telework and remote work agreements.[/quote]

But...no one is talking about trying to have their young kids at home while also working, at least in this thread.  People are talking about commutes and aftercare, etc.[/quote]

You haven't been reading all the posts then. One person just described telework as a way to avoid infant child care programs, citing both the difficulty of finding a spot and the expense. Another person said she wanted to drive her kids to activities rather than putting them in aftercare.[/quote]

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