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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Given how sleepy the religion forum was for a while until recently, I'm guessing OP is the atheist (singular). Not sure why it brings OP so much joy to jump down the throats of theists regularly, but I guess we all have to find our purpose in life somewhere.[/quote]

There is at least one atheist poster with a very distinct writing style who has been spending hours in this thread alone. I wonder if they are spiraling in a mental health episode. [/quote]

Don't worry about them.  Think of your own possible mental health episode.

Believing in God is still the default position in the US, so you're safe in that respect, and whether or not you voted for the guy who was elected to be our next president, you can certainly thank a lot of religious people for electing him.

And to think -- he's an atheist!

How do I know? -- I don't, but I've never put the question to an atheist who disagreed with me, although reluctantly, after some thought.

It forces us to acknowledge that all atheists are not good people.  Why should they be? Believers are not all good people, despite the fact that they have lists of rules to follow, supposedly set forth by their various gods.[/quote]

I am a believer and the fact that I am NOT a “moral” or “good” person is central to my faith and my conversion.   I completely screwed up one marriage, was en route to screwing up the second one, and was a selfish, money and career obsessed person (very common in the DMV).   I used to think that religion was just about following the rules and I didn’t do a very good job of that, so what was the point?

Then I discovered true Christianity which is that we are sinners saved by grace and that our salvation is not dependent upon our record but on Jesus’s record — which we receive when we have faith in him.   Every other major world religion says “try really hard” and MAYBE it will work out OK.   Christianity says exactly the opposite — it is a religion for those who admit that they are weak and in need of help.   Jesus could have spent all of his time hanging out with the Pharisees and other religious leaders of the day — instead he spent his time savings sinners and being critical of the Pharisees because they were hypocrites.

This perspective on life completely changes how I relate to other people too.  Instead of being judgmental and harsh towards other people, I see other people as having flaws just like I have.   I can’t feel superior to anyone else when I am cognizant of my own flaws.  Yet I have complete confidence because I am loved by Jesus and he died for me and my sins.

It’s a radical and liberating way of living and very different from a “moralism” competition on who follows the rules the best.   [/quote]

Hello, true Christian -- I'm glad you feel better now that your perspective on life has changed.

What do you think about Trump being an atheist?  It would be nice to hear from others about this too.[/quote]

This is a super interesting perspective.   Honestly, I had never even looked at this way, but I think you are completely right.   Trump is certainly a Christian who believes in the same doctrine I just set forth above.

I also think it’s interesting that all of the objections to Trump — his selfishness, greed, sexual immorality, dishonesty, crudeness, etc. — when you are criticize him you are criticizing him using Christian standards.   If you an atheist and God doesn’t exist, then it’s just a strong eats the weak type world and why does it matter if Trump does any of this stuff?   In fact, Trump would have fit in quite well in the Roman Empire and the way that its leaders acted and behaved.   [/quote]

I assume you are the same poster who continues to not understand how morality works and that it does not have to be based on religious beliefs. Your questions have been addressed and answered in previous posts but you lack the ability to comprehend. [/quote]

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