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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This thread is off the rails. It was answered early on that we have many environmental factors disrupting our endocrine systems nowadays. People are more interested in touting their virtue and ability to cook wholesome meals at any budget. [/quote]

Wholesome meals are nice but they, or their lack, aren't the reason that some kids are skinny and some kids are thick.  It's partly genetics and food abundance (or a coping mechanism for abuse) but it's mostly an endocrine/metabolism issue caused by environmental factors, particularly pervasive antibiotics but also microplastics and probably others.  [/quote]

Agree and also, trauma and stress are huge determinants. [/quote]

Holy cow you people are insane, no wonder we have the obesity epidemic we do. No, the average overweight elementary-aged kid has not been exposed to enough trauma, abuse, or “endocrine disrupters” in their 8 short years to cause their obesity. It’s the parents. Clearly! As evidenced by this thread. [/quote]

Endocrine disrupters are everywhere.  But the solution is the same (clean diet, minimize exposure generally).[/quote]

Find me a study that endocrine disrupters are the cause of an entire very recent and new generation of childhood obesity. No one is denying they’re real, you are however vastly vastly overstating their impacts on children in an attempt to…what? Reduce your culpability as a parent? Shameful [/quote]

I'm not sure why, except that you're so convinced of your own parental superiority, that you think every poster suggesting factors that may contribute to the obesity epidemic has overweight kids?

Pretty sure I'm not the only one who doesn't. But I hope your rants about "culpability" are making you feel better?[/quote]

[b]Any posters without overweight kids who are nevertheless coming up with these absurd excuses are most likely your typical disingenuous virtue-signalers. [/quote][/b]

As opposed to, you know, scientists.[/quote]

I am a scientist.  With an understanding of statistics and uncertainty analysis.  Many of you are concentrating on the variables that are essentially in the noise and ignoring the glaringly obvious variable (which is clearly the overall number of calories consumed).[/quote]

I agree with PP.  Plenty of reputable health sites say hormones and genetics can be causes of childhood obesity.   But many experts do agree that the main cause is overeating and leading a sedentary lifestyle.  Think about how much screen time kids get these days, as one example.

This is an anecdote, but we can eat mostly anything that we prepare at home, as long as we stick to 3 meals a day with 1 or no snacks.  I def notice when I skip meals and start snacking, or start ordering out more, my weight creeps up.  If I cook it at home, anything seems to be fine to eat.

I do know a few overweight kids and they overeat quite a bit.  I have seen an obese 5 year old be portioned 4 pieces of pizza for dinner by a grandparent.  I see kids at the park walking around with containers of Pringles and big bags of candy. [b] I feel like all of the excuses on this thread make it feel so hopeless for the next generation to maintain their health, when the answers are actually much simpler for the vast majority of people (not everyone, but most people).

I don't think looking for crazy answers is what's going to help most people.[/quote][/b]

[b]This is where I disagree. [/b]It is like anything where an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Very worthy of attention. And no one is asking for a pass from accountability. they are pointing out the ineffectiveness of shaming and blaming. When people are shamed for their weight, it leads to increased weight, not the opposite. Shaming parents does not achieve anything either.

Additionally, it is not “simple” to remove processed foods and lack of activity from our culture. So it is not like everyone is missing some easy fix on a population level.[/quote]

lol yes we know you disagree. You have posted 7200 times that obesity is not due to nutrition or exercise choices but rather factors outside of your control.  You should talk to your doctor about that.

You also have a psychological problem if restricting calories to a healthy level is viewed in your mind as “shaming.” More than one unhealthy thing is going on in your life lady!! [/quote]

You’re making things up at this point just to continue trolling. Yawn.[/quote]

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